Review Barbie at Holiday Spa

[bobbieround]

I decided to give Barbie a try based on her description. I have been going to Cindy fir years so I know the place well and she was not there that day.

She is above average in looks. Big ( but not huge) breasts, natural and nice. She has typical asian body, medium size, soft and mushy mid section. Flat bum. Face was a solid 7.5 decent gnd type , 30ish.

I asked Cindy to contact barbie, tell her I'm coming to see her , and that I'm a good client. Hoping this would break the ice a bit. She confirmed that Cindy contacted her.

I got undressed and waited patiently for her to re enter. When she did, first course of action was she asked for the money up front....WTF?!?! I've never paid up front with Cindy or others here so I was put off especially since I was already naked. I kindly told her I'd pay after, she insisted on paying before. Getting upset, while fumbling through my hung clothes for the money. Then she proceeds to upcharge my typical rate. After arguing on the rate she finally agreed.

Not off to a good start. She left the room and quickly returned. I usually prefer to do the fun stuff first and massage after. She was ok with this. On first visits I don't do much so only did body slide and finished with Italian finish. The initial business like exchange made any positive sexual experience impossible...it was pretty mechanical.

I used the in room shower . She went to shower in another room. Ok. She took forever and returned 25 minutes later !!!! This only added gasoline to a growing fire. I got her to acknowledge the time. She was confused. She also asked me if I wanted a massage? She was hoping that since the time was up I would forfeit the massage. I lost it !!. I yelled at her and said do you think I paid 120 fir a 5 minute body slide??

She proceeded with massage. Needless to say it was awful. 10 minutes later she figured this was satisfactory. At this point I was so annoyed I just wanted to leave. I was also so upset that I did not argue or discuss any type of refund but I hate when these lowlifes cheat me and my money.

I really tried to just forget it, but lately I've become very intolerant to substandard service. Usually I try to resolve to these situations with manamgmt or mamasan but this time I said forget it...I'm writing a review.

Body:. 7.5 , breasts get the majority of this score.
Face: 7.5 nice gnd type.
Service: 4... Mechanical at best
Massage 4....rushed
Attitude. 4. Would be lower except I don't think she was mean just this attitude of disinterest and entitled.

Repeat : No.

PS: I have also wrote to Cindy do she is aware of her.

 

[superdick]

I decided to give Barbie a try based on her description. I have been going to Cindy fir years so I know the place well and she was not there that day.

She is above average in looks. Big ( but not huge) breasts, natural and nice. She has typical asian body, medium size, soft and mushy mid section. Flat bum. Face was a solid 7.5 decent gnd type , 30ish.

I asked Cindy to contact barbie, tell her I'm coming to see her , and that I'm a good client. Hoping this would break the ice a bit. She confirmed that Cindy contacted her.

I got undressed and waited patiently for her to re enter. When she did, first course of action was she asked for the money up front....WTF?!?! I've never paid up front with Cindy or others here so I was put off especially since I was already naked. I kindly told her I'd pay after, she insisted on paying before. Getting upset, while fumbling through my hung clothes for the money. Then she proceeds to upcharge my typical rate. After arguing on the rate she finally agreed.

Not off to a good start. She left the room and quickly returned. I usually prefer to do the fun stuff first and massage after. She was ok with this. On first visits I don't do much so only did body slide and finished with Italian finish. The initial business like exchange made any positive sexual experience impossible...it was pretty mechanical.

I used the in room shower . She went to shower in another room. Ok. She took forever and returned 25 minutes later !!!! This only added gasoline to a growing fire. I got her to acknowledge the time. She was confused. She also asked me if I wanted a massage? She was hoping that since the time was up I would forfeit the massage. I lost it !!. I yelled at her and said do you think I paid 120 fir a 5 minute body slide??

She proceeded with massage. Needless to say it was awful. 10 minutes later she figured this was satisfactory. At this point I was so annoyed I just wanted to leave. I was also so upset that I did not argue or discuss any type of refund but I hate when these lowlifes cheat me and my money.

I really tried to just forget it, but lately I've become very intolerant to substandard service. Usually I try to resolve to these situations with manamgmt or mamasan but this time I said forget it...I'm writing a review.

Body:. 7.5 , breasts get the majority of this score.
Face: 7.5 nice gnd type.
Service: 4... Mechanical at best
Massage 4....rushed
Attitude. 4. Would be lower except I don't think she was mean just this attitude of disinterest and entitled.

Repeat : No.

PS: I have also wrote to Cindy do she is aware of her.

A good "amber/red flag" review.....your rating seems quite reasonable (never been t this spa)
Most of the points you listed are Red or Amber flags for me.

Red flag you walk
Amber go cautiously

1. I try not to assume any two attendants will give similar treatment based on looks or pastg experience at a spa. Unfortunately our big and little heads are wired that way.
2. Insistence on money up front has been both amber and red for me in the past. At Semi-legit I will only do room fee first. Extras are to be earned and deserving.
3. I prefer massage first especially with first time encounters. Helps to set the mood and get a feel for attitude. Extras can be discussed during play and touch phase.
4. Once she knows what I like routine can vary depending on how sore or horny I am. Plus there is no shower break (your paid time). Let them shower with you or on their time.
5. I have walked even during the "fun stages" if attendant's attitude drastically changes and becomes restrictive, argumentative, hinting for more than the agreed upon tips.

 

[The hook]

sorry about what happened to you that's is a piss off

thank you for letting us know....we all appreciate it .......

 

[BmH6769]

Should’ve put your clothes back on and leave my man

 

[cupcrazy]

i want to see how @krayjee going to respond. He will probably say you are full of shit

 

[DareDevil]

I decided to give Barbie a try based on her description. I have been going to Cindy fir years so I know the place well and she was not there that day.

She is above average in looks. Big ( but not huge) breasts, natural and nice. She has typical asian body, medium size, soft and mushy mid section. Flat bum. Face was a solid 7.5 decent gnd type , 30ish.

I asked Cindy to contact barbie, tell her I'm coming to see her , and that I'm a good client. Hoping this would break the ice a bit. She confirmed that Cindy contacted her.

I got undressed and waited patiently for her to re enter. When she did, first course of action was she asked for the money up front....WTF?!?! I've never paid up front with Cindy or others here so I was put off especially since I was already naked. I kindly told her I'd pay after, she insisted on paying before. Getting upset, while fumbling through my hung clothes for the money. Then she proceeds to upcharge my typical rate. After arguing on the rate she finally agreed.

Not off to a good start. She left the room and quickly returned. I usually prefer to do the fun stuff first and massage after. She was ok with this. On first visits I don't do much so only did body slide and finished with Italian finish. The initial business like exchange made any positive sexual experience impossible...it was pretty mechanical.

I used the in room shower . She went to shower in another room. Ok. She took forever and returned 25 minutes later !!!! This only added gasoline to a growing fire. I got her to acknowledge the time. She was confused. She also asked me if I wanted a massage? She was hoping that since the time was up I would forfeit the massage. I lost it !!. I yelled at her and said do you think I paid 120 fir a 5 minute body slide??

She proceeded with massage. Needless to say it was awful. 10 minutes later she figured this was satisfactory. At this point I was so annoyed I just wanted to leave. I was also so upset that I did not argue or discuss any type of refund but I hate when these lowlifes cheat me and my money.

I really tried to just forget it, but lately I've become very intolerant to substandard service. Usually I try to resolve to these situations with manamgmt or mamasan but this time I said forget it...I'm writing a review.

Body:. 7.5 , breasts get the majority of this score.
Face: 7.5 nice gnd type.
Service: 4... Mechanical at best
Massage 4....rushed
Attitude. 4. Would be lower except I don't think she was mean just this attitude of disinterest and entitled.

Repeat : No.

PS: I have also wrote to Cindy do she is aware of her.

What color hair does she have pls?

 

[Sajam Enjoyer]

Those kind of sessions really do make me upset just hearing about it. I really want to know what goes into the decision making process of choosing you as the guy she will try to rob blind.

 

[takrak]

I always tip after the session, if they inssist on the tips upfront I walk. Once you pay the tips upfront the ball is in their court.

 

[SuperSport]

Oh, you guys!

The room fee / tip period is variable not a cast in stone thing, here is some examples.....

The room fee is almost always upfront - you walk, you lose it - know that,
still better than ripped (if that's what you think is occurring) for room and tips.

You are a regular, common to have tip paid after, even room fee,
but don't let that get to your head, every new MPA means starting fresh.

Sometimes guys go for 30 minute massage, they start with a ten minute shower then
expect 30 minutes remain. They negotiate at mid point service tip, and same conversation
is going to take place as would before, and so crappy service can happen all same,
are you then going to pay less because the money's still in your pocket? Who does that?

The OP wanted service upfront BEFORE tips were discussed, then massage,
this was his usual, and Cindy spoke to Barbie too (but likely not when, or maybe even
what he pays), and so if I was Barbie I "might" done same thing, tip negotiation
before service that is the norm.

If she (now I'm not just talking about Barbie here) wants upfront, sometimes it's because
she's only one there (at that moment, other gal out for different noodle or just started
an hour session), you can easily bolt, believe it or not guys do that, the Spa's don't
announce it cause they don't want others to get same bright idea.

My advice is, don't listen to that "up front" is a rip off, it's stereotype, bad service can happen
at any time, and if you decided to stay, do so with a smile, friendliness, and generosity.

You think VIP / QQ / Honey and others let you pay after? Are they always giving bad service?

 

[krayjee]

Here is my opinion...

OP went in there hoping and expecting too much just bcuz Cindy has already told Barbie OP is a regular. We all are human being and we all are different. Cindy is Cindy, Barbie is Barbie and we don't really know what Cindy has told Barbie about you and might see you a different way. Pls don't assume Cindy has told her good things about you. It is best to make the girl feel comfortable first with a polite friendly approach and never go in there expecting too much.

This is a full service spa , so paying upfront is a norm cuz some of the girls have been cheated or didn't get paid, so it is best to get the money out of the way first. You don't want the girl serving you and thinking in her mind will I get paid or not.

Negotiating and bargaining is a turn off to girls, pls be prepared how much you want to spend and what kind of service you are looking for. If the girl says 140, I always give them 150. A difference of 10-20 dollars is nothing for me but it can make a big difference in the girl's attitude. Pls remember Cindy is the boss, $120 or140 doesn't matter to her cuz she is getting everything into her pocket. The girls have to pay $40 to Cindy, so if you pay !20, the girl is getting only 80 bucks.

A few minutes of massage is there at holistic spas to break the ice and get to know each other a bit. It is best to get a little massage first before the fun. And always take shower before the session , that makes the girl feel better knowing you are clean. No girls want to play with a dirty sweaty smelly body. if possible , It's best to get a SF2 first before the session . It's a norm at QQ and VIP.

My point here is it all depends on how you approach the girls and knowing how to make the girl feel comfortable. . Always remember if you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything.

 

[bobbieround]

Here is my opinion...

OP went in there hoping and expecting too much just bcuz Cindy has already told Barbie OP is a regular. We all are human being and we all are different. Cindy is Cindy, Barbie is Barbie and we don't really know what Cindy has told Barbie about you and might see you a different way. Pls don't assume Cindy has told her good things about you. It is best to make the girl feel comfortable first with a polite friendly approach and never go in there expecting too much.

This is a full service spa , so paying upfront is a norm cuz some of the girls have been cheated or didn't get paid, so it is best to get the money out of the way first. You don't want the girl serving you and thinking in her mind will I get paid or not.

Negotiating and bargaining is a turn off to girls, pls be prepared how much you want to spend and what kind of service you are looking for. If the girl says 140, I always give them 150. A difference of 10-20 dollars is nothing for me but it can make a big difference in the girl's attitude. Pls remember Cindy is the boss, $120 or140 doesn't matter to her cuz she is getting everything into her pocket. The girls have to pay $40 to Cindy, so if you pay !20, the girl is getting only 80 bucks.

A few minutes of massage is there at holistic spas to break the ice and get to know each other a bit. It is best to get a little massage first before the fun. And always take shower before the session , that makes the girl feel better knowing you are clean. No girls want to play with a dirty sweaty smelly body. if possible , It's best to get a SF2 first before the session . It's a norm at QQ and VIP.

My point here is it all depends on how you approach the girls and knowing how to make the girl feel comfortable. . Always remember if you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything.

There is some good points here, however in my specific case, none applied so you have made assumptions about me that are wrong.
1. I specifically spoke first with Cindy so to start the " comfort level" going up. Of course, my approach is always respect, gentle, and non evasive behaviour. I'm looking for someone who I can repeat visits with. Note. I've know and seen Cindy for over 10 years so yes I'm committed when satisfied.

2. I understand negotiating but once I explained that I spoke with Cindy and I typically payy 120, then that shouldve ended there. I explained to her that I tend to do repeat visits and if good I will repeat. Case in point, she gains 20 bucks and loses out on weeks/months of repeat visits by me for this crappy service. Note. I understand that room fee paid up front is ok...I've done that with many new places. However paying up front for tips/fun stuff i have had always a bad experience. This was a red flag for me, and I was right again.
3. When I go to a mpa it's always planned. So I always shower at home, dress nicely, freshly brushed teeth with mouthwash, and very important, always wear cologne! You don't need to preach to me how important this is to these MPA's. I'm not a newbie, and I know how much this means to the girls. So please don't assume I came in smelly.
4. I have been hobbying for many years. I have many regulars who I've seen for years. I like to try new girls from time to time but after many years I've become quite intolerant to bad experiences from MPA's with bad entitled attitudes. I work hard for my entertainment dollar and hate when it's cheated. Because of my experience I know as much as anyone the importance of making a good first impression, having good banter with the girl, respect, gentlemanly behaviour and good attitude.

Just wanted to be clear on these points.

 

[krayjee]

My suggestion.....
Always look from the girl's point of view. Not yours.
They have seen hundreds of guys and most know how to read guys. I am not assuming anything. There surely must have a reason why you didn't have a good time.

 

[superdick]

There is some good points here, however in my specific case, none applied so you have made assumptions about me that are wrong.
1. I specifically spoke first with Cindy so to start the " comfort level" going up. Of course, my approach is always respect, gentle, and non evasive behaviour. I'm looking for someone who I can repeat visits with. Note. I've know and seen Cindy for over 10 years so yes I'm committed when satisfied.

2. I understand negotiating but once I explained that I spoke with Cindy and I typically payy 120, then that shouldve ended there. I explained to her that I tend to do repeat visits and if good I will repeat. Case in point, she gains 20 bucks and loses out on weeks/months of repeat visits by me for this crappy service. Note. I understand that room fee paid up front is ok...I've done that with many new places. However paying up front for tips/fun stuff i have had always a bad experience. This was a red flag for me, and I was right again.
3. When I go to a mpa it's always planned. So I always shower at home, dress nicely, freshly brushed teeth with mouthwash, and very important, always wear cologne! You don't need to preach to me how important this is to these MPA's. I'm not a newbie, and I know how much this means to the girls. So please don't assume I came in smelly.
4. I have been hobbying for many years. I have many regulars who I've seen for years. I like to try new girls from time to time but after many years I've become quite intolerant to bad experiences from MPA's with bad entitled attitudes. I work hard for my entertainment dollar and hate when it's cheated. Because of my experience I know as much as anyone the importance of making a good first impression, having good banter with the girl, respect, gentlemanly behaviour and good attitude.

Just wanted to be clear on these points.

Was not aware this was a full service spa.......Fees up front makes sense but service is usually guaranteed.

I with you that there are some good points from the previous posters including konwn Promoter Krayjee.........but

None of us was in the room with you and as a fellow hobbyist I totally understand where you are coming from after reading your responses. Been there done that.
We can appreciate and understand the risk these girls take and that some customers will try to take advantage of a situation ........but......
As hobbyist we cannot and should not give the girls carte blanche immunity from poor reviews.
Promoters like Krayjee always tend to do so.
I totally respect his point of view and his need to to support the girls and the AMPs that he represents.
Reviews good and bad are essential for fellow hobbyist when determining where to spend their entertainment dollars.

 

[Potato]

Is this the same Barbie as in Golden lotus?

 

[krayjee]

Was not aware this was a full service spa.......Fees up front makes sense but service is usually guaranteed.
As hobbyist we cannot and should not give the girls carte blanche immunity from poor reviews.
Promoters like Krayjee always tend to do so.
I totally respect his point of view and his need to to support the girls and the AMPs that he represents.
Reviews good and bad are essential for fellow hobbyist when determining where to spend their entertainment dollars.

Full service girls opening their legs is always guaranteed when you pay the price agreed upon at full service spas. What is not guaranteed is DFK, Daty, GFE and digits are all up to the girls depending on how the two click.
Reviews good and bad are essential but you have to know who the reviewer was. If you go by bad reviews of guys like PornPrince you know where you stand. I never post any bad reviews bcuz it could be my fault, I saw her in a bad day or I am too old for her liking and such. All my reviews are good cuz I only post reviews of girls who are worthy of getting the reviews and all were by my own experience. I tend to get a lot more than a few in here cuz I am gentle, generous and decent looking with the body and looks most Asian women like .

 

[cupcrazy]

Full service girls opening their legs is always guaranteed when you pay the price agreed upon at full service spas. What is not guaranteed is DFK, Daty, GFE and digits are all up to the girls depending on how the two click.
Reviews good and bad are essential but you have to know who the reviewer was. If you go by bad reviews of guys like PornPrince you know where you stand. I never post any bad reviews bcuz it could be my fault, I saw her in a bad day or I am too old for her liking and such. All my reviews are good cuz I only post reviews of girls who are worthy of getting the reviews and all were by my own experience. I tend to get a lot more than a few in here cuz I am gentle, generous and decent looking with the body and looks most Asian women like .

Is it a coincidence that the good reviews posted by you are for the spas you are shilling?

Customers don't give a shit if the girls are having a bad day. Do customers get discounts on the girl's shitty days? No.

Personally I don't really care whether I paid upfront or not.. at the end of thenday, you still have to pay the tips. Sure the girls can flip the table by giving crappy and or short HE after they received thr tips. It is the chance you take. If the girl doesn't impress me the first time, don't expect me to repeat.

 

[cupcrazy]

My suggestion.....
Always look from the girl's point of view. Not yours.
They have seen hundreds of guys and most know how to read guys. I am not assuming anything. There surely must have a reason why you didn't have a good time.

So now your are blaming the customers now. I thought the onus falls on the girls to make the customers happy and not the other way around

 

[cl794]

My suggestion.....
Always look from the girl's point of view. Not yours.
They have seen hundreds of guys and most know how to read guys. I am not assuming anything. There surely must have a reason why you didn't have a good time.

so it's always the guy's fault? never the girl's fault.

okay.......... wise suggesiton. so wise.

 

[cl794]

My suggestion.....
Always look from the girl's point of view. Not yours.
They have seen hundreds of guys and most know how to read guys. I am not assuming anything. There surely must have a reason why you didn't have a good time.

hey man, just be proud you're a shill. just say, you're happy being a shill because it gives you many benefits. what's so hard about that? being a shill is a job like any other, you get benefits, you do certain things. but just admit it man.

such coward. just admit you're a shill.