Danforth Massage Parlours Busted ?????

[FeveDrercor]

I heard on the radio, but did not get a clear description, that 3-4 Massage Parlours were busted that were located on Danforth....would that be true?????

The cops seem to be increasing their activities lately again

 

[stefan_ptg]

Are you late to parties?

 

[anony]

Actually here is the story:

Mon Aug. 25 2008 4:42:17 PM
Nine massage parlours busted
Web Staff, cp24.com
Police have laid over 80 charges after busting several massage parlours in East York on Friday.Nine businesses on Danforth Avenue and O'Connor Drive were allegedly fronts for prostitution-related services, police say.
Investigators began looking into the businesses after hearing concerns from area residents, businesses and city councilors back in May.

The businesses that were closed down include:

Holistic Senses Spa - 837 O'Connor Dr.,
Sky Spa - 985 O'Connor Dr.,
Rubyna's Salon and Spa - 1880 O'Connor Dr.,
Devon Spa - 1410 Danforth Ave.,
Avita Day Spa - 1834 Danforth Ave.,
La Bella Health Spa - 1904 Danforth Ave.,
Natural Spa - 2054 Danforth Ave.,
Zina's Day Spa - 2124 Danforth Ave.,
Suzi's Spa - 2318 Danforth Ave.

Police arrested 25 people, laid 81 charges, seized $25,000 and a large quantity of ecstasy and marijuana.
Some of the charges include Owning and Keeping a Common Bawdy House, Inmate of a Common Bawdy House and Found-In of a Common Bawdy House.


One wonders with all the Spa's on The Queensway, will that area be the next target zone...I wonder???????

 

[Pompal 09.]

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=203179

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=203191

http://www.massageplanet.net.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=203194


But I liked yours the best.

 

[hippos_in_love]

Anybody noticed that all these spas that were busted along Danforth and O'Connor were owned and operated by Russians. There were at least 4 - 6 Asian spas in the area that were not mentioned above. I know service wise they are the same rub & tug places. So the question is what gives and what changed?

Anyone wants to speculate that there might be a rise in anti Russia activity here in TO? I guess we wait and see!!!

 

[Poppet]

I'm not going to mention names because I don't want to draw heat to them, but there were at least two Russian spas on the Danforth NOT included in the bust. I called them today, the phones were answered, and I just asked them what time they were open until - so I know they're still operating.

 

[Alex B. Wake up!]

FWIW, to the best of my knowledge 837 O'Connor and 1904 Danforth are both Oriental spas.

 

[Aly]

Can a customer be charged if there in one of the rooms when the raid happens or do they only charge the MPA's and owners?

 

[Cougar]

Inmate of a Bawdy House and Found in of a Bawdy House are both charges made to non MPA's and owners, so yes.

 

[MusicIsLife]

The cops often lie about the timings of their busts
So its hard to get the story right

I had removed all 5 of these addresses from the directory as the numbers they had got disconnected

Devon Spa

 

[SmiLeY!!! <33]

I can confirm those spas were operating very recently.

 

[red dye #2]

Suzi's has been gone for about a month now as has the pizza place above it. Would love to know where one girl who worked there is now. Her name is Santana. Anybody know?

 

[future]

I wonder why one MPA location a little further east was spared, as it's Russian? I won't mention the name as some will be all over me for providing info. to the police, though I'm sure they know it was there.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Holistic Senses Spa - 837 O'Connor Dr. has been closed for about a month now, and I can vouch that after several separate trips there there was nothing going on that would be worth getting arrested over even when it was open. You could get a body slide, but not much more .. they must have been selling drugs if they were doing anything!?

 

[birdbayboy]

Uh - a Body Slide is illegal.

The Criminal Code of Canada defines a Bawdy House as any place where a sexual act is being done for exchange of money. A Body Slide, where you pay extra for it is considered a sexual act, and is as arrestable as BJ, FS, DATY or whatever come what may. There is this perception that HJ or masturbation of any form is not illegal - the Criminal Code does not distinguish between sexual acts.

So I salute you - you've just indicated exactly why the spa would be targeted!

 

[lvgeno]

Uh, just who is this authority that considers a body slide to be a sexual act? It's certainly news to me. My experience may be different than yours (or the authorities') but it was literally one naked body sliding over another. Period. Full stop. Perhaps that might qualify as an indecent performance, had there been an audience, and it was certainly a sexy act, but I doubt that it qualifies legally as a sexual act such as FS, BJ, HJ, DaTY. If so, the Mrs. Sauga MPs' posted pricelists definitely constitute communicating for the purpose.

Please provide more details.

 

[~JYP <3 Gail Kim]

The authority is the Criminal Code of Canada, Section 210. Keep in mind "your experience" (i.e. that you did not receive any sort of masturbation or ejaculation) has absolutely no bearing on your treatment during a raid, you are arrested. You are charged as a "Found-In" at a "Bawdy House", the services you receive are irrelevant - you could be sitting in the waiting room reading a copy of "Wuthering Heights" for all they care and still be arrested.

As long as a previous police investigation has determined that any massage has resulted in masturbation, the place is deemed a "Bawdy House" for the purposes of arresting everyone in it. So basically, you better hope that every other previous client in the MP leaves as "frustrated" as you claim to be, because as soon as one person receives something more, that place can be deemed a Bawdy House. You can scream all you want that you did not receive sex - that's not what you're being charged with. You're being charged as a "Found-In" under the AUTHORITY of the Criminal Code of Canada.

Note too that the Criminal Code does not distinguish between what a sexual act is or is not, so the police can raid based on any act. I know the courts are applying some definitions and standards, and I'm not a lawyer, so I won't comment on what they are or have decided because I have not read the cases yet, and interpreting court decisions is difficult for a non-lawyer. The point is, and I said this clearly - you will be ARRESTED as a "Found-In". Then another authority takes over, the courts. Whether or not you are CONVICTED in a court of law, remains to be seen - the point is though, you are arrested and you have to deal with all the shit that causes.

Now, as for Mississauga and Brampton advertising said services - their bylaws (at least a few years ago when I read them) allowed them to advertise the prices for these services in their locations. However, an advertisement, or a municipal bylaw does not give anyone the right to get around the Criminal Code of CANADA (note emphasis on Canada - it's a national document and trumps municipal bylaws). So a bylaw may allow for advertising such services, but the provision of them (especially if they lead to masturbation) could still result in Bawdy House charges being laid.

You also mention "Communicating for the purpose". Again, look at the Criminal Code of Canada. The communication must be done in a public place. Private locations, as in a locked room in an industrial complex occupied by two adults, are not included in the communications laws as a public place. Behind closed doors, you can talk about whatever you want. As Pierre Trudeau said "Government has no place in our bedrooms."

 

[Ruby]

That's probably true (depends on the license I believe) but did they drag them out of their homes and back to the MP to arrest them? The place has been closed for well over a month now, probably longer.

 

[MHMCHH]

I don't know about the closures and their timing. My suspicion is that the "raids" took place continuously from about May until August, but obviously they weren't publicized until they wrapped-up the sweep until late August.

As for licensing - no license allows a business or anyone to break the laws of our country, as outlined in the Criminal Code of Canada - it's a national document, and has an entirely separate court structure to it. Bylaws and municipal licenses simply regulate various operational aspects of a business so that it conforms to community standards. The bylaws and licenses can talk about topless, nude, NR, BS, etc... If you read the Brampton and Mississauga bylaws, there may be mention of these services, but there is absolutely no direct mention of sex, masturbation or HJ (much less any more than that) in them and the Criminal Code still applies.

What OJ is saying is that he gets his BS in Brampton with no sex involved what-so-ever according the the bylaws, so he should not be charged in a raid. Unfortunately, he's not being charged for receiving any sexual services, he's being charged as a "Found-In", which means that the police have evidence that HJ or other stuff did occur there, and that gives them the right to round up anyone in the place when they raid it, regardless of service received.

 

[naci]

Now hold on there. That's not what I said at all, and you don't have to explain the self-evident term "found-in" to me. By now we should all know that sex acts for money are not criminal in Canada, but pretty much having anything to do with a place where such legal acts customarily occur is.

I'm only in this debate because of the assertion that "A Body Slide, where you pay extra for it is considered a sexual act,…" under the terms of the bawdy house prohibitions, which I still question. I'm afraid I didn't find anything that specific in the general refernce you gave to Section 210 CCC, but I may well have missed it, so if there's a more specific citation, I'm interested.

While it's certainly true that w/o a clear, concise set of definitions, the cops can arrest and the Crown may even charge for just about any act they think of as naughtily sexual, it doesn't mean the action actually is what they say. That can only be determined by politicians who write the laws and by judges who have to figure out what they meant to define as criminal—or have to supply definitions the pols left out. That's why we call them trials, and not sure-things.

So, I thank you for warning me that a paid-for body slide might be considered an act of prostitution by a cop at some time. But when I was asking for your authority, I wanted the court decision or specific reference in the law which would justify his version. And if a judge can find that an unnegociated happy ending is spontaneous and not an act of prostitution, I'd think I'm justified in holding my belief that neither is a slithering of two naked bodies, at least until that authoritative decision comes along.

As to licensing vs criminal law which many seem to find murky. The Mississauga bylaw, as is common, expressly provides for license forfeiture if there is any criminal activity on the premises. So at least their Council believes a non-criminal body slide is possible, given that they allow such services to be communicated and performed. Were the matter as cut and dried as you originally asserted, they'd be licensing criminal acts, which as you say, they cannot do.

Of course what two consenting adults actually do in private may be quite different from what they are supposed to do under any law, municipal or criminal. So it's good advice: that it's all dangerous, and that it's not so much what you may do at the MP, but what everyone else is doing that matters.