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The other day I was approached by the owner of the healing center where I rent a room one day a week regarding gift certificates. He is an acupuncturist and works with a group of about 20 doctors nearby, and he wants to give them gc's for free massages. Now, he already knows that I will not work for free, but he asked me how much I would charge HIIM for the gc's of 30 or 60 minutes. I have no idea. His idea is that by working on these doctors they will start referring patients to us. I'm not big on the idea of discounts, especially since I'm having some repetitive strain issues lately and don't want to overwork my body for nothing. And come on, they're DOCTORS - doctors tend to make quite enough money to pay for massages. Hmm...looks like I answered my own question.

Ok, so since I am not interested in giving a discount, but would still like the money since we all know that most gift certificates go unused...any suggestions for any type of incentive I could tack onto the session? 15 minutes of free Reiki perhaps?

(speaking of Reiki, I just read about a study that claims it helped patients with diabetic neuropathy. very interesting.)
 


Does the group already refer to you and the LAc? If so, free massage is unlikely to change/increase the referrals. (Speaking from experience.)

If they are unfamiliar with your work (and the LAc's,) you might try a "mobile afternoon," where you and the LAc go to their group and do a presentation, demonstration and offer some "samples" of 5-10 minutes chair massage. If you do the chair demos, be sure and do actual demos of the nature of work you are pursuing, IOW, NOT "chair massage" demos, but show how you work on TOS, neck pain, sub-occipital release, trigger points, etc. If you are after the Reiki referrals, be sure to do a single demo that can be observed and be aware of the fact that most doctors scoff at energy work, so take information about the documented value to chemo patients, children, etc.

You may wish to charge the LAc for your time of demo-ing, or if you are really making a pitch for you own practice, consider the 1-2 hours as marketing.
 


I don't think we receive referrals from them now. The demo is a good idea, I'll have to remember that in the future. Unfortunately, I think he already gave them the gc's, which puts me in an awkward position. There is only one other MT there, who just started and whom I have yet to meet, but regardless of what she would choose to charge, I also feel the need to maintain my own standards.
 


I haven't done it, but I know a massage therapist that built her entire successful business on doing few doctors free. They referred her their patients for years since.
Good Luck!
 


Since he has already given the certificates, maybe you could work out a deal where he is only paying you as/if they are redeemed, since so many GCs never get redeemed, that would like a very good discount, eh?

:smt017
 


I'm with Breathe on this one. Pay as they are redeemed. One year from now, he/she may ask if some were not redeemed and ask for $ back.
I personally don't do discounts. Added value, yes, but never discount.
 


Doctors can certainly afford their own massages, but they are not using your services because they don't know about you. Trial is the best way to create a purchase.

The flip side to pay as redeemed is discount but collect up front.

If you give the LAc a 25% discount, but only 50% use the GCs, you come out making 50% more money than "pay as redeemed" at full price.

Plus, your discount counts as a marketing expense.

Between the cash flow advaneforum.xxxe of being paid up front and the redemption rate, this is the way I would go. Pay for 5, get 6 is the same idea -- so long as you buy all 5 at once.

One of our hotel clients purchased a dozen GCs at a 25% discount to give to frequent guests. In 6 months we have had 1 redemption.
 


RelaxandRejuvenate said:
Doctors can certainly afford their own massages, but they are not using your services because they don't know about you. Trial is the best way to create a purchase.

The flip side to pay as redeemed is discount but collect up front.

If you give the LAc a 25% discount, but only 50% use the GCs, you come out making 50% more money than "pay as redeemed" at full price.

Plus, your discount counts as a marketing expense.

Between the cash flow advaneforum.xxxe of being paid up front and the redemption rate, this is the way I would go. Pay for 5, get 6 is the same idea -- so long as you buy all 5 at once.

One of our hotel clients purchased a dozen GCs at a 25% discount to give to frequent guests. In 6 months we have had 1 redemption.

Very clever. I had already come up with that exact same dollar amount, but it will sound much better as "a 25% discount." Thanks!
 


Doctors are notoriously very busy, and rarely make time for massage. When I first opened my practice, I sent GC's to every doctor in my town. Only one called to make an appointment, and she ended up cancelling at the last minute due to an emergency. I'd be surprised if any of your GC's get redeemed. As Breathe suggested, demos are more effective, especially if you do it over a clinic's lunch hour, and provide lunch in addition to the demo. Again, doctors often won't attend the demo, or if they do, they'll only come for 5 minutes. However, their staff will attend (nurses, assistants, etc.), and they can create goodwill and referral of patients.

Lastly, doctors are more likely to refer, if you're covered by insurance. I know physical therapists who have done the demo/lunch successfully to get referrals for alternate therapies they provide (Cranio, Lymph, MFR, etc.)
 
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    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietna
  36. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธNinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  37. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 5 girls are working today, young fun Ivy 36DD with big buttocks open mind and sweet Tina with curve body, young cute Vivian 22โ€™s and GFE Ella, sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available. 350 Wilson Ave North York
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bella ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ
  40. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: BELLA (10-9): is a young & pretty Taiwanese girl, busty D Cup, curvy body,deep bbbj, cfk, dim, finger in p*ssy, extra services, excellent service. HOLLY (11am-9pm) : is a young, pretty, slim & busty yoga instructor from Vietnam, standing 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  41. New Oriental Health Centre:
    ๐ŸซฆSasa & Nayla are in today ๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„ Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ’„Sasa is a Young Pretty Chinese Girl ๐Ÿ‘ Nayla is a Tall, Young, Beautiful & Curvy Spanish Girl. ๐Ÿ’„All Our Girls Provide Lots of E X T R A S & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open from 8am til Late Everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  42. HollywoodSpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: CINDY, JENNY & SISI. โ˜Ž416-222-5554โ˜Ž When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood Spa๐ŸŽญ, you will be treated with tender care and your visit will be a fulfilling one. Nice Massage, Young Pretty Girls. We have Chinese, Japanese, Korean & other attendants. CINDY is a slim & pretty lady with long dark hair and a pleasing personality. JENNY is slim, attractive
  43. Annie Spa:
    Our famous sexy superstar Suki is working today Thursday December 26th with gorgeous young girls Cici and Coco๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ˜˜ Suki only works on Thursdays and her schedule gets booked up very quickly so book your appointments well in advanceโ€ฆitโ€™s always a very special and busy day at Annie Spa when Suki is working ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜โค๏ธ๐Ÿฅฐ Call Annie Spa and ask for May to book appointments ๐Ÿ’ฏโค๏ธ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป 1001 Sandhurst Circle Unit #7 Finch and McCowan Area 437-818-8896 416-291-8879
  44. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience.
  45. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild & her cfs finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  46. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMMAA, LUCY & CINDY. EMMA is a very beautiful slim Chinese honey with C Cups, beauty face, & nice services to drive you wild. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart
  47. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga kiki and Lala work
  48. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ New Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜ Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜Hot and sexy body, super body slide, very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super sexy girl Mia big boobs 3Dhas therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in
  49. See You Health Center:
    Cherry ๐Ÿ’ From Malaysia Part time School girl Naturally very pretty face, Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Https://seeyouspa.com โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  50. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Barbie Very Young, very Petite Korea Student With Perfect S shape type Spicy Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl She is 5โ€™ 2โ€ tall, 98 Lbs With D Cup Melons Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
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