New to this, have some questions

[lost-explorer]

I've been lurking this forum a long time and finally made an account. Forgive me if I make some stupid mistakes here and there as I may not understand the typical rules.

1. How old are you guys, do you have girlfriends/wives or is paying for intimacy the only way you do things?

2. When did you get started, and how much do you usually spend?

3. What kind of jobs do you have that allow you to pay for all this? I'd imagine if MPA are your only form of sexual fun, then you'd spend quite a bit per year compared to a regular dude with a wife/gf.

 

[Jay13]

I'm 34 but been going to Spa's on and off since I was 20. There have been times I haven't gone for a year or more. I have 2 girls I see a few times during the week I guess you can call them gf's. I'm not really good with relationships as I always get bored, the longest relationship I've had is 1 year lol. I usually spend 160 if it's full service if it's a massage and happy ending 100 for a hour or if I want 90 mins 80 for the room and 50 to 60 for the girl. It can get expensive but I usually only go few times a month but lately it's been every week. I drive a truck for a living.

 

[WhacksOnWhacksOff]

There are polls that have already asked these questions. But nevertheless

1. almost 30. forever alone
2. 24
3. around 300 a month

 

[Hornet]

You’ll find every type of guy under the sun in this hobby. From young 20 year olds, to older guys in their 50s and 60s and even 70s. Some guys are just regular joes, then there are guys making $100k+, professional lawyers and doctors and there are also rich business owners. Many guys are married and others are single. Stress relief or a little extra spice than what can be found at home is probably a very big factor in going rather than not being in a relationship. Some guys go once/month, some go once/week and some guys go 3-4 times a week.

There is something to be said about after having a stressful day or week to just make an appointment and go for a massage and release or a little extra fun.

 

[lost-explorer]

You're right, I realize now my question was kind of idiotic. There is no one archetype for a massage-goer. It could the usual "lonely virgin" whose only kick is paying for it, or it could be a rich banker who wants to get away from his wife's nagging and have action with a much younger girl.

I'm 25 - an ugly dude with pretty bad social anxiety. So needless to say my dating life was non-existent even before Corona shut down bars and nightlife. So "paying for it" is kind of my only option. Though the idea of a massage parlor doesn't really interest me, I'd much rather find a girl that does incalls and naked cuddling in her bed or something. Sorry if that makes me weird, just a preference I have.

I make about 80k/year so spending $150 every few months on sexual services isn't too big of a deal, but I am worried that I'll get addicted or hooked and drain my bank account. I have really bad self control. I have no idea where to begin so I guess I should just trudge a long.

 

[Hornet]

You're right, I realize now my question was kind of idiotic. There is no one archetype for a massage-goer. It could the usual "lonely virgin" whose only kick is paying for it, or it could be a rich banker who wants to get away from his wife's nagging and have action with a much younger girl.

I'm 25 - an ugly dude with pretty bad social anxiety. So needless to say my dating life was non-existent even before Corona shut down bars and nightlife. So "paying for it" is kind of my only option. Though the idea of a massage parlor doesn't really interest me, I'd much rather find a girl that does incalls and naked cuddling in her bed or something. Sorry if that makes me weird, just a preference I have.

I make about 80k/year so spending $150 every few months on sexual services isn't too big of a deal, but I am worried that I'll get addicted or hooked and drain my bank account. I have really bad self control. I have no idea where to begin so I guess I should just trudge a long.

Just avoid any young girl that describes herself as a “party girl” or “club girl” type. These are the hot young girls that just want to make money, buy shoes, clothes and anything expensive. These are the ones that at your age you’ll get addicted to but they won’t care about you just your money.

 

[lost-explorer]

That's good to know - because I actually have quite a MILF fetish. So if older women avoid the drama and bullshit, even better.

 

[AthleticAF]

That's good to know - because I actually have quite a MILF fetish. So if older women avoid the drama and bullshit, even better.

Don't tell them your income or what you do.
Pay for their time, then be gone.

 

[lost-explorer]

Don't tell them your income or what you do.
Pay for their time, then be gone.

I didn't plan to tell them any personal details.

My main problem is actually finding a mature woman that does Incalls. I have no idea where to start. Leolist seemed interesting but apparently it's a honeypot for fakes.

 

[nathanzyc]

You're right, I realize now my question was kind of idiotic. There is no one archetype for a massage-goer. It could the usual "lonely virgin" whose only kick is paying for it, or it could be a rich banker who wants to get away from his wife's nagging and have action with a much younger girl.

I'm 25 - an ugly dude with pretty bad social anxiety. So needless to say my dating life was non-existent even before Corona shut down bars and nightlife. So "paying for it" is kind of my only option. Though the idea of a massage parlor doesn't really interest me, I'd much rather find a girl that does incalls and naked cuddling in her bed or something. Sorry if that makes me weird, just a preference I have.

I make about 80k/year so spending $150 every few months on sexual services isn't too big of a deal, but I am worried that I'll get addicted or hooked and drain my bank account. I have really bad self control. I have no idea where to begin so I guess I should just trudge a long.

going to this kind of place can help u understand women. for ppl who is not good with women like yourself, it is not the best way, but still will make u better. but u need to talk to them during session, not just there for a release. they are talking ur money so most would be at least polite.
do not think less of urself because ur not good looking and not good socially. all these can change when u get older and more experienced.
u r making good money at ur age, i am only making half when i am 25, so think that as an edge against 2/3 of the 25 years old guys out there.

 

[lost-explorer]

Thanks - and I know this is a pretty contentious topic about the "younger guys" on this forum. The gist seems to be that lonely virgins have a void in their life that paying girls won't fix, we need to get out in the world and learn to date and form a real connection. But everyone's situation is different and my particular one is such that I don't mind paying for some action. I know it won't hurt me emotionally.

To be honest, I think I have enough information to go with. I've read about plenty of massage parlors and have some basic info. Though I don't understand the difference between Licensed, Holistic, etc.

I would much prefer an independent girl, I searched on Kijiji for massages but have no way of knowing which is a real woman running her business casually and which is a sexual provider. I'd rather not insult a real RMT by showing up expecting her to touch my dong.

And finally, unlike most guys, I don't want some young Asian doing this. I'd much rather prefer a white MILF who does incalls and allows cuddling. So am I even looking for an MP by this point or just an escort/hooker?

 

[OppaiLover]

Thanks - and I know this is a pretty contentious topic about the "younger guys" on this forum. The gist seems to be that lonely virgins have a void in their life that paying girls won't fix, we need to get out in the world and learn to date and form a real connection. But everyone's situation is different and my particular one is such that I don't mind paying for some action. I know it won't hurt me emotionally.

To be honest, I think I have enough information to go with. I've read about plenty of massage parlors and have some basic info. Though I don't understand the difference between Licensed, Holistic, etc.

I would much prefer an independent girl, I searched on Kijiji for massages but have no way of knowing which is a real woman running her business casually and which is a sexual provider. I'd rather not insult a real RMT by showing up expecting her to touch my dong.

And finally, unlike most guys, I don't want some young Asian doing this. I'd much rather prefer a white MILF who does incalls and allows cuddling. So am I even looking for an MP by this point or just an escort/hooker?

If that's what you're looking for then you might want to go the escort route. Although, you could probably find a white milf at a spa/bodyrub. That's not my type though, so I don't have any recommendations but, I'm sure someone here will be willing to share.

 

[lost-explorer]

While we're on this topic I might as well get this question out of the way; found a girl on Leolist but can someone give me some tips? Is this legit? $70 for 30m FS from a 21-yr old white girl seems too good to be true.

I know the advice above was to avoid young girls, I'm not necessarily looking to hire her. Just curious as to why she's so cheap.

verifed sexy & natural ☆ 100% real!! college girl 7/hh | Brampton | Greater Toronto Area | Female Escorts | LeoList

 

[Melting_Point23]

While we're on this topic I might as well get this question out of the way; found a girl on Leolist but can someone give me some tips? Is this legit? $70 for 30m FS from a 21-yr old white girl seems too good to be true.

I know the advice above was to avoid young girls, I'm not necessarily looking to hire her. Just curious as to why she's so cheap.

verifed sexy & natural ☆ 100% real!! college girl 7/hh | Brampton | Greater Toronto Area | Female Escorts | LeoList

Yea, study the market price and if something sounds too good to be true, chances are it's not true....

 

[WhacksOnWhacksOff]

You're right, I realize now my question was kind of idiotic. There is no one archetype for a massage-goer. It could the usual "lonely virgin" whose only kick is paying for it, or it could be a rich banker who wants to get away from his wife's nagging and have action with a much younger girl.

I'm 25 - an ugly dude with pretty bad social anxiety. So needless to say my dating life was non-existent even before Corona shut down bars and nightlife. So "paying for it" is kind of my only option. Though the idea of a massage parlor doesn't really interest me, I'd much rather find a girl that does incalls and naked cuddling in her bed or something. Sorry if that makes me weird, just a preference I have.

I make about 80k/year so spending $150 every few months on sexual services isn't too big of a deal, but I am worried that I'll get addicted or hooked and drain my bank account. I have really bad self control. I have no idea where to begin so I guess I should just trudge a long.

When i was your age, i was ugly (still am), had social anxiety,making the same amount you do. I was spending 150 a month, with no signs of "addiction". If you can do it every few months, and thats what your budget allows you ,then do it.

i also recommend escorts. $160 for half hour. search on terb.cc to find on who enjoys kiss and cuddle.

enjoy!

 

[Deleted member 66315]

Do not start seeing massage girls and hookers. It's not worth it. Nothing good can come from it.

You're 25, you're much better off working on yourself and getting a gf of your own. You can do it. Just be honest about what's wrong with you looks and image and change those things.

 

[lost-explorer]

Believe me, if the world wasn't shut down that's what I'd be doing. I'd be going to bars/clubs and meetups just trying to get any girl that would enjoy my charisma and look past my face. You can't do that now - the only option is TInder or Bumble. And anyone who thinks ugly dudes get matches on Tinder is out of his mind, lol.

I used to use meetup.com as a way of finding social events, it was pretty good. But now every social gathering is this incredibly worthless "virtual chat", and it's laughably dumb. You can't flirt with a girl over a webcam with 10 people on the same screen.

Corona really did a number on the world when it comes to human socializing. It's insane.

 

[xtc27]

... luv it when dudes talk how much they spend... but nobody ever brags how much he spends on his gf or mistress? Any Frenchman who cant afford a mistress = Loser (perdant) ... gotta leave France.. .. guess they moved here!

How much u spend on beer, coffee, Blue Jay tix, fantasy football... I mean, most dudes waste hundreds...

So, dude, u got the $$$, but u dont spend it on yr dick... or u waste it on porn... I have literally lived porn fantasies in spas... porn seems so lame now... & I stay on budget.

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The best secret... treat girls really, really gd, like bff or gf, & whole world of fun opens up... even pretty ones, they dont always get treated well... e-z 2 shine just being normal nice... supernice, & so much fun stuff happens.... @Caliguy = true master of mpa charming... he’s pissed @ u right now, but he’s gr8...

Cant speak 4 Cali, but looks? Not my superpower. ... being nice, me= gd @ that... & gd w computers 🖥 scored pts that way, 2...

To paraphrase Charlie Sheen, I dont pay ‘m 4 sex, I pay’m 2 stay @ spa after! ( ... & even then, a few have tried to come home w me...)

 

[Deleted member 66315]

Believe me, if the world wasn't shut down that's what I'd be doing. I'd be going to bars/clubs and meetups just trying to get any girl that would enjoy my charisma and look past my face. You can't do that now - the only option is TInder or Bumble. And anyone who thinks ugly dudes get matches on Tinder is out of his mind, lol.

I used to use meetup.com as a way of finding social events, it was pretty good. But now every social gathering is this incredibly worthless "virtual chat", and it's laughably dumb. You can't flirt with a girl over a webcam with 10 people on the same screen.

Corona really did a number on the world when it comes to human socializing. It's insane.

Your face can't be that horrible. Work out. You're 25. I've seen plenty of ugly face dudes that are jacked get super hot girls. Happens all the time.

 

[lost-explorer]

Your face can't be that horrible. Work out. You're 25. I've seen plenty of ugly face dudes that are jacked get super hot girls. Happens all the time.

1. No, my face is really that bad.

2. I'm gonna sound like a negative cynical coward but I'll say it anyway. Never been a fan of this working out approach.

I agree...exercise is good for you regardless of whether you're trying to get girls or not. But the idea that I need to spend hours and hours at the gym and give up ice cream and Yada Yada just to look muscular enough to get a basic looking girl is just...whatever. weird.

I know I sound like a lazy little bitch that can't put in the effort to being attractive. But there it is.