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Have had a proplapsed L5 for 8 years. Was manageble up until a couple of years ago when the pain moved about a bit and my back has got so painful and tender that at times just the pressure of a cushion makes me want to vomit. Have been on 1 x amiltryptyline for past 2 years which helps, but puts me in a coma for most of the day.

Had a visit to a very patronising and depressing Pain Clinic doc this week who told me I'll never get better if I dont exercise (like I didnt know that) and that at my age (48) I have to expect pain to increase in all areas of my life as "after all I have to die of something". He has told me to take 8 paracetomol, 4 tramadol and a pregabalin a day which seems heck of a lot to me. Havent yet tried the pregabalin but the others are making me really dizzy and wanting to be sick and not helping greatly. Have an epidural injection booked for June and an MRI, but have been told unlikely to help and I am def not considered for surgery. He says I should take the lot and then "grit my teeth and exercise".

This is just bit of a 'get it off my chest' post as only another sufferer of this would have any understanding....
 
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Do you see a chiropractor? Can wholeheartedly recommend finding a good one. If you do go to one then try another, they all seem to work their magic in different ways and have different areas of expertise.

I had severe disc problems about 13 yrs ago, did the physio and exercises at home, and a 'back school' for 6 weeks. I self manage my problems now and see a chiropractor regularly who puts everything back where it should be. I had to train myself to use my body in a different way..... to bend, use the hoover, wash up, stand up.... get out of bed, everything. Muscles switch off when you have chronic back problems and your body stops using them when it moves about, making the problems and pressure on the discs worse. You need to do specific exercises to 'switch' the muscles back on again so your body uses them to hold your posture. For me it took 6 months of consistent work every day, but it did pay off.

There is lots of info on the net about the exercises that you can do to mobilse the joints freeing the nerves, encourage the discs to sit in the correct place, and switch the muscles on that connect the vertebrae together (not forgetting the core muscles). Just 'exercising' isn't going to help unless you are taught how to use your body correctly and target the muscle groups involved in holding posture which are involuntary.

Yoga, pilates and alexander technique are excelllent for improving core strength (Wii fit???). You may find that the exercises cause your back to ache badly the first few times but this will subside as you build the core strength and start using these muscle again, without thinking in your everyday activities.

Hope this helps, and you have an improvement soon!

love, light and Reiki to you!
 
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Have tried Pregabalin and Gabapentin, what a waste of time, all it's given me is problems with my eyes, thanks alot pain management Dr lol, have to go back on 15th April for another consultation, which I know is going to be a waste of time Take care x
 
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I have been to oesteopaths, chiropracters, physios and acupuncturists over the years yet they end up referring me back to the pain clinic so round in circles. Am trying to fix up Pilates.

My head is absolutely swimming from all these drugs so far...!
 
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Have you considered having your disc removed and the spine fused? That may be the best option.
 
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Hi eden.eden

Sorry to hear you have had such a bad experience and are experiencing so much pain. The symptoms you are describing are most likely due to the Tramadol. It is renowned for these side effects. It is unlikely to be the paracetamol.

Pregabalin is supposed to be a cleaner drug than Gabapentin as it is the "next generation" drug developed by the original makers of Gabapentin as a response to the end of their sole licence thingy which would allow the drug to be manufactured as a generic and not solely as a branded one. Big pharma is a nightmare as is the legislation stuff.

Chronic pain management should not be a one size fits all because that is certainly not the case in my experience. Targeted paced exercise can help. The injection may be of limited benefit but it is only really helpful if it is combined with appropriate input on exercise, posture etc. As far as I am aware there is only very limited evidence for use of epidural injections in lower back pain. The study done down here actually showed that they are a waste of time and money in the long run and that it is not possible to predict whether anyone will get any benefit, how much, how long.

Don't take anything you don't want to or that makes you feel unwell. If the clinic doc insists, put your foot down. It is your body and you have a right to decline or accept treatment as you see fit without prejudice.

In the meantime it is worth investigating other means of managing your pain and possibly learning what your body is trying to tell you at other levels.

Hope you start to see some positive results soon.
 
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For what its worth, I just thought I would add my 2 penny's worth. I am prescribed what is effectively an overdose of tramadol a day - with absolutely no effect whatsover, and with no side effects either. I also take topirate, the epilepsy medication for pain that has some pretty nasty side effects but apparently no pain relief.

I have had 3 epidurals. 2 Lumbar and 1 caudal. I was assured the caudal - which I had 2 months ago - had a much greater chance of success. But nada. Nothing. Absolutely no impact at all.

I am so sorry eden.eden that you have such a poor and patronising pain clinic doc. I met one like that today so i especially sympathise. It is incredibly demoralising and it can make you feel completely desperate.
 
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    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Lulu,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  31. Moneylee:
    full season wellness center: NewYoung girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Anika , Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage star ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  32. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž Tuesday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY(10AM-11pm) & Spinner NANA (11am-11pm)[/color] CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny NANA is an unbelievably good Superstar SPINNER, only about 5โ€™2โ€
  33. SugarLoveSpa:
    Tuesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: MIMI, TIFFANY & YARA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž MIMI is a slim & busty Asian/Euro mix beauty, 50Kgs & 1M60. Mimi has a very versatile range of services. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey
  34. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Michelle, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  35. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Rita๐ŸฅฐA brand new girl from Northeast China of Russian descent has just arrived, a young sexy beauty with smooth white skin, natural 32C breasts with big juicy nipples and fantastic tight little bum bum waiting to be kissed and spa
  36. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธRebecca โ˜Ž905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ
  37. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจClick On Username and FOLLOW USโœ… Today ๐ŸŒธClaire๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธIsabella โ˜Ž289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ
  38. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธ โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธ There is a new girl named Ellie Professional Thai Massage ๐Ÿ‘ Finger pressure and acupoint massage ๐Ÿ‘ Hot body slide ๐Ÿ”ฅ Luna nice girl slim figure man's favorite ear kiss ๐Ÿ’‹ Desire Guidance: Welcome to enter or make an appointment at 5124 Dundas W Etobicoke anytime โ˜Ž๏ธ 416-817-3366
  39. YM203:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 Spanish Latin white skin girl &college student in today
  40. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, New First Day Sexy Chinese Coco, Sexy Chinese Linda, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  41. andyyc:
    fort st john
  42. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  43. Sparkling Spa:
    Sexy Nympho Summer is working at Sparkling Spa with Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Summer & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  44. Q Spa:
    Busty sexy open minded girl Chloe working with Q Spa Legend Selina today! This will be Chloeโ€™s last month before returning to China so hurry and book your appointments with the exotic sultry Chloe before she is gone!!! ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅReal pictures of Chloe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ Call or text Q Spa 647-739-6866 to book appointment with Selina or Chloe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’ฅ Duo four hand massage also available with Chloe and Selina๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏCall for details and book appointment647-739-6866
  45. SunriseRH:
    MONDAY at ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—ฆ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: JJULIA & LILY. 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 27, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿฒ โ˜Ž๏ธ JULIA is a slim but curvy Spanish attendant with natural B Cups & a pretty face. She can take a load off your mind. LILY is Chinese, curvy, with big boobs. SUNRISE SPA welcomes you to experience total relaxation in our comfortable, clean, cozy environment.
  46. NewOriental:
    MONDAY at ๐—ก๐—˜๐—ช ๐—ข๐—ฅ๐—œ๐—˜๐—ก๐—ง๐—”๐—Ÿ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: HAPPY, KAT, NAYLA & PHOENIX 10 East Wilmot St, Unit 26, Richmond Hill, on โ˜Ž๏ธ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿด๐Ÿญ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž๏ธ HAPPY is a slim & busty Korean lady with great massage skills & lots of extra fun. KAT is young & slim with C Cups , a tasty figure & a tasty menu. NAYLA is a tall, young, beautiful & curvy Spanish girl. Come and say hola.
  47. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  48. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Lisa, Cindy & Ruby. Lisa is a young, slim & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a model like body, 5โ€™4โ€ with sweet D Cups, nice massage, incredible services. RUBY is Singaporean, very slim, petite & sexy, speaks English well, & has great services. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural
  49. HolidaySpa:
    Monday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ*New Girl CANDY, YUMI & CINDY CANDY is a slim and attractive Asian Attendant with nice boobs, slim waist & a booty loverโ€™s ass. Candy has a full range of services. YUMI is a sexy skinny Chinese babe, short with big boobs, nice smile & very good services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  50. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
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