Zona Blue Girl / House Cut and Tipping

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Today I was at Zona Blue, and after the session. The girl gave me the spiel that she get $18 and the house gets $24. Is this the correct cut. I heard tipping should be like 10%. Service was above average but not great and I didn't get the full hour. She seemed to frown upon my 10%. Is that the correct cut and/or was my tipping off?
 


I don't see your tipping as being off much. I tip about 2000 to 3000 col in high end and lower end places for good service. I figure the girls in the low end places doing session for $10 to $20 need deserve a higher percent and the get so little for the session. That is about in line with what I have heard the Zona girls get which may be a little below the average of about 50% cut for girls.rbc100
 
Zona Blue Girl / House Cut and Tipping

Honkytonk said:
Today I was at Zona Blue, and after the session. The girl gave me the spiel that she get $18 and the house gets $24. Is this the correct cut. I heard tipping should be like 10%. Service was above average but not great and I didn't get the full hour. She seemed to frown upon my 10%. Is that the correct cut and/or was my tipping off?


I have actually asked this question of many of the chicas at ZB, I have at current count 4 different answers ranging from $11.00 to $ 30.00, I am not sure what to believe as we all know the chicas are not exactly known for their honesty, my guess would be they are renting the rooms (wink-wink) to the girls for 20.00-24.00 per hour depending on CRT VIP or not, in other words....1/2 is my guess

This is just an opinion, would be interested if agreed with or not.

As far as tipping, I tip based upon performance...usually above 10%...I may be the exception but I do get outstanding service as I believe the girls do talk about us as much as we do them and are well aware of who the nice guys are........... and are not..
 
Girls Cut

Guys, the girls at ZB get 9K Colones or $18 for the session. That is up 1K colones or $2 since they received a raise a month or so ago. Tipping is to each his own, but I could never see giving less than $10, typically $20 for a session, extra if you feel it is worth it.
 


One thing I would like to add to this thread is not a direct response to the initial thread. But, it is important for those who read the forum to note so disturbing changes at ZB. Having said that, I am still a big ZB fan.

I have noticed that some of the chicas are starting to hustle the expensive drinks while lounging in the bar area. I have never been one to say, "no" to the drinks in the past. Until I got the bill for buying 3 drinks last visit for 3 well known ZB stars. I don't remember how much it was but if I remember it is about $9.00 each. I usually agree to the drinks because in the past the girls usually only asked for juice or a soft drink. No biggie. Now the hustle for the kahlua drink. No mas.

Second, as I finished a double with 2 of the more famous chicas they were a bit disappointed with my initial propina. They would have accepted it but hustled me for $20 each. I know they did this to another guy too because I witnessed it in the lobby. He asked me how much he should tip. I gave him my advice. He then told me that he was pressured for $20 from the same chica as I had taken.

Again, I'm still a big fan but,even being the vet that I am, will be more firm in what I will give. It was almost like a US strip club. I hope that the trend does not continue.

dapanz1
 


I know what you mean, Dapanz. I will no longer buy drinks for the chicas at either Zona Blue or Idem.........they're just too damn expensive! Even at the regular bars; Key Largo, Blue Marlin, New York Bar, etc., if a chica asks me to buy her a drink......I say "yes, if you want a domestic beer, OK, but I'm not buying any exotic mixed drinks." Some actually get offended by this.....Oh well.

The propina angle is another "sour grape" for me. I always give the chica what I think is a fair propina, but when they do that typical frown :( and start complaining, I ask them "do you want this or not?"......and that's the end of it. You have to draw the line somewhere.

Zebra
 


Wow, a $20 tip. That's quite a lot. And it sounds like these girls expect it. I have never been there other than to pick up my vip cards. I think I'll give it a miss. It sounds to me like the girls there are getting spoiled.
 


I have to agree with a lot of what has been said in this thread. It seems the Zona chicas are getting a little spoiled. The line up is real strong as good as ever though. I only sessioned twice there this trip and was quoted two different prices and they were different from the price my buddy paid. It definitely gave me a Iรขโ‚ฌโ„ขm being hustled feeling. It wasnรขโ‚ฌโ„ขt a big deal or a lot, but I did session more at New Fantasy this trip than Zona. I canรขโ‚ฌโ„ขt remember that ever happening before.
 


I think we should not blame the chicas totally. I think we should blame ourselves, some more than others. :roll:
 


$ 20-30 tips no wonder the girls are getting spoiled...More like $ 8-15 is my norm for good service, usually the change from $50 at todays VIP rate of $42 is more than adequate, with occassional increase for perfect service IMHO...

The house drink at $ 9 if a definite no-no, that is ridiculous.....are the girls getting a piece of this or is it total profit to the house (1 shot of Baileys and mixer)

Although not a cheap guy, I do offer water or a soda, but say no bebe to the Zona Cocktail.....
 


Second, as I finished a double with 2 of the more famous chicas they were a bit disappointed with my initial propina. They would have accepted it but hustled me for $20 each. I know they did this to another guy too because I witnessed it in the lobby. He asked me how much he should tip. I gave him my advice. He then told me that he was pressured for $20 from the same chica as I had taken.

Same thing for me 3 weeks ago. The girls wanted a 10,000 colone tip each and pouted like little Babi*s when I laughed. :roll: This was the first time I had ever been asked for a propina at ZB. :evil: If the service is good then 2,000 - 4,000 is plenty in my book (and thats a cheap book). :)
 


I usually bring with me a bunch of $5 bills for tips at ZB or other places. In other words, I already have planned what I will give. If service was absolutely great, I'd be willing to give two $5 bills. But seldom. Has to be GFE with some emotional connection. Reasonable tips and expectations are to the benefit of everyone. If pressure, expectations and/or crappy attitudes get out of hand, many of us may choose to go elsewhere or even, I hope not, stay home. So reasonableness in tipping and, for that matter, pricing, will keep nearly everyone happy. Those who go overboard in their tipping practices end up spoiling it not only for themselves, but the rest of us as well. I want to be kind and considerate, but I also don't want to feel manipulated. If I feel that way, I'll find another place in San Jose to patronize and the place that permits unreasonable expectations will gradually lose business until it is ready to re-enter to good old capitalist system.
 


I have stuck to giving the same tip to every girl I session with Cause I know they talk! I have never had one bad session there.
Some will do EVERY thing (naughty girls), and some wont. I tend to repeat with the naughty ones more often, as they are comfortable with me.
I have had 2 sessions on a 3 way where one of them tried to ask up front for certain acts.. I shut that down quick and let them know they will be taken care of. I will never agree to a tip up front. At the end Its always the same tip.
You cant fault these gals for ask'n I guess.
I agree with El Silencioso, I only offer water soda or redbull..


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    โค๏ธ KAJAL, SANA and KK are here today for your massage needs โค๏ธ Lily Spa โค๏ธ 2190 McNicoll โค๏ธ Scarborough โค๏ธ M1V 5M2 โค๏ธ (647) 531-8288 โค๏ธ
  36. hiyamickey:
    6 girls working at Reinella wellness, Jenny, Angela, Queenie, Pinky, Grace, Sasha, @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  37. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Yoyo & Noor are her today ๐Ÿ’‹ ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  38. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 open mind Cuban girl (Mimi ) &Asian girl in today
  39. Newspring@:
    โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธsexy hot Singapore ๐ŸŒธJapanese ๐ŸŒธindian girl working at๐Ÿ’“๐Ÿ’“ Nu spring spa โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  40. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open to 9pm: *New Girl BELLA: is a cute European lady with blonde hair & blue eyes, busty E Cups, curvy body & sweet slow service. KITTY): is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly, no rush, dfk, bbbj, cim, cof, rim, titf*k
  41. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800๏ผŒopen10 to10.we have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,๐Ÿ’„Sunny is very friendly nice girl,providing deep tissue massage and nice body slide ๐Ÿ’„ new girl Judy very good looking,big breasted service queen,girl friend experience,๐Ÿ’„Mina is long hair sexy ,she know what do you need,must try๐Ÿท๐Ÿท๐Ÿฅฐ
  42. Sparkling Spa:
    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer -๐Ÿ”ฅA sexy sultry part time Korean student with a wild and crazy addictive pe
  43. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Anna๐Ÿ˜˜- A stunning sexy girl from Hong K
  44. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage kasa ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs coco ,young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Tina ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beautiful
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  47. Red Rose Spa:
    ASHA, ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ANAYA, ANGEL, LUCY, NISHA, MEERA, ANGELINA, NUR ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  48. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSusan๐ŸŒธIsabella๐ŸŒธFran๐ŸŒธCassy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  49. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธLuLu๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธJazminCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  50. ASPA:
    ๐—ง๐—›๐—จ๐—ฅ๐—ฆ๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: Fox, Coco & ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜ ๐—บ๐—ฎ๐˜€๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฒ ๐—ฅ๐—ฎ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—น[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ FOX is 26 years old with 34Cโ€™s, stands 164Cm tall and weighs 54Kg. Fox is very friendly and can provide a great girlfriend experience. COCO medium build
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