Terrible Experience at Seduction (New girl Victoria)

[Hobbyist0912]

Gents,

I just made a second account, as I do not wish the disclose my identity with my main account. I’ve been enjoying this hobby for more than 3 years now, have many reviews here, and I just had my worst experience at seduction spa (Keele) location and with their new girl Victoria.

So I had originally asked for Victoria for 45 minutes. I went in and asked the manager if there are any duo possibilities... she says let me go ask the girls if anyone is comfortable. She comes back in a few minutes and says Britney could join you but you have to pay this much more + this much more tip for both girls. I considered for a bit and said ok I think I’m just gonna stick with Victoria tonight.

I go into the room and Victoria comes in with her breath stinking of alcohol (turn off), but I didn’t say anything and acted like I was very happy with what I’m seeing. Then she says so have you been to the spa before? I say yes, many times. She says well you know what you want? (very business like). I say yes, I want full service. She’s like ok let me think... we have 45 minutes... so that’s gonna be 180(!)... I was naturally surprised and said I normally pay 100 for FS, even in one hour long sessions. She gives me this look like I have murdered her family and she goes WELL THATS NOT GONNA WORK FOR ME! all the while, her stinking breath is not helping. So I go ok well then let’s just do a normal teasing session. She’s like fine! Lay on your back! I said (in a playful way) can just have fun without the massage? She says well you said you want a normal session! I cannot stress how confrontational her tone was in all of these exchanges. So she’s like OK FINE! Grabs my guy and starts jack hammer. I’m like hold on go easy. Could you tease me. She’s like well you said you wanna have fun the whole time! I’m like hold on, why are you being so difficult? Did I offend you? She’s like “well first you come in and you say you want to do a duo with my friend. AND YOU WERENT EVEN SERIOUS! Then you’re trying to get my services for cheap. Of course I’m mad” I’m like well I’m just asking about my options...What's wrong with that? then she grabs my guy again and jack hammer and finished me in 5 minutes. Then says I’ll be back.... I knew she’s not coming back. I put on my clothes and walk out and go to the manager (her name was Lisa). I politely said can I please speak with you and she’s like yes give me a second. She helps another customer and then comes back and says ok what happened?! Turns out Victoria had already spoken with her and intended to leave me in the room on my own(!). At first she was also giving me this look like I had murdered Victoria’s family! So I patiently explained and told her I apologize but I have to be detailed with my description. I told her everything (more detailed than above) and her facial expression changed.

Keep in mind that I was in the room for only 10 minutes. She said ok I’m very sorry for your experience. what I can do is to “make your session a 30 minutes session” and refund you 40 bucks and give you a credit of 40 bucks for next time. I said “I was in the room for only ten minutes. I am not going to visit your establishments ever again if you do not fix this. I have spent so much money in this place”. She said ok let me call the owner. I only have so much power as a manager. She leaves and keeps me wait for another 5-7 minutes. Comes back and repeats what she had said previously(!) with two twenties in her hand and puts them in my hand and repeats “Ok, so we can give you 40 back to make your session a half an hour session and give you 40 dollar credit for your next visit” I got up and threw the 40 bucks on the table and said keep your forty bucks, I am not going to visit your spa again. She looked very surprised (!). I told her 40 bucks is not gonna make me rich and is not gonna make your establishment flourish. It’s about the principle... and walked out. Worst spa experience in all my hobbying experiences over the years. I should also add that I am young fella and in very good shape and my hygene is great.

Have had a few not so great experiences at airport location as well and have seen bad reviews of Seduction spa on this board as well. But I think this experience was the last straw for me. I won’t be visiting seduction ever again and I suggest the same to fellow hobbyists. An experience like this will never happen at premier or flirt. Those guys are pros... Don't get me wrong. I think sometimes there could be friction between the client and the MP... It comes down to how the manager and how the owner are willing to fix it in order to respect your business, maintain it, and even increase it.

I think girls at seduction really need to understand that they are getting paid, very handsomely i might add, to provide a professional service. We are not at a bar or a party to get drunk, get paranoid and offended, and have illogical arguments with the client with stinking breath...

Have a good night gentlemen.

 

[thunderfromdownunder]

Gents,

I just made a second account, as I do not wish the disclose my identity with my main account. I’ve been enjoying this hobby for more than 3 years now, have many reviews here, and I just had my worst experience at seduction spa (Keele) location and with their new girl Victoria.

So I had originally asked for Victoria for 45 minutes. I went in and asked the manager if there are any duo possibilities... she says let me go ask the girls if anyone is comfortable. She comes back in a few minutes and says Britney could join you but you have to pay this much more + this much more tip for both girls. I considered for a bit and said ok I think I’m just gonna stick with Victoria tonight.

I go into the room and Victoria comes in with her breath stinking of alcohol (turn off), but I didn’t say anything and acted like I was very happy with what I’m seeing. Then she says so have you been to the spa before? I say yes, many times. She says well you know what you want? (very business like). I say yes, I want full service. She’s like ok let me think... we have 45 minutes... so that’s gonna be 180(!)... I was naturally surprised and said I normally pay 100 for FS, even in one hour long sessions. She gives me this look like I have murdered her family and she goes WELL THATS NOT GONNA WORK FOR ME! all the while, her stinking breath is not helping. So I go ok well then let’s just do a normal teasing session. She’s like fine! Lay on your back! I said (in a playful way) can just have fun without the massage? She says well you said you want a normal session! I cannot stress how confrontational her tone was in all of these exchanges. So she’s like OK FINE! Grabs my guy and starts jack hammer. I’m like hold on go easy. Could you tease me. She’s like well you said you wanna have fun the whole time! I’m like hold on, why are you being so difficult? Did I offend you? She’s like “well first you come in and you say you want to do a duo with my friend. AND YOU WERENT EVEN SERIOUS! Then you’re trying to get my services for cheap. Of course I’m mad” I’m like well I’m just asking about my options...What's wrong with that? then she grabs my guy again and jack hammer and finished me in 5 minutes. Then says I’ll be back.... I knew she’s not coming back. I put on my clothes and walk out and go to the manager (her name was Lisa). I politely said can I please speak with you and she’s like yes give me a second. She helps another customer and then comes back and says ok what happened?! Turns out Victoria had already spoken with her and intended to leave me in the room on my own(!). At first she was also giving me this look like I had murdered Victoria’s family! So I patiently explained and told her I apologize but I have to be detailed with my description. I told her everything (more detailed than above) and her facial expression changed.

Keep in mind that I was in the room for only 10 minutes. She said ok I’m very sorry for your experience. what I can do is to “make your session a 30 minutes session” and refund you 40 bucks and give you a credit of 40 bucks for next time. I said “I was in the room for only ten minutes. I am not going to visit your establishments ever again if you do not fix this. I have spent so much money in this place”. She said ok let me call the owner. I only have so much power as a manager. She leaves and keeps me wait for another 5-7 minutes. Comes back and repeats what she had said previously(!) with two twenties in her hand and puts them in my hand and repeats “Ok, so we can give you 40 back to make your session a half an hour session and give you 40 dollar credit for your next visit” I got up and threw the 40 bucks on the table and said keep your forty bucks, I am not going to visit your spa again. She looked very surprised (!). I told her 40 bucks is not gonna make me rich and is not gonna make your establishment flourish. It’s about the principle... and walked out. Worst spa experience in all my hobbying experiences over the years. I should also add that I am young fella and in very good shape and my hygene is great.

Have had a few not so great experiences at airport location as well and have seen bad reviews of Seduction spa on this board as well. But I think this experience was the last straw for me. I won’t be visiting seduction ever again and I suggest the same to fellow hobbyists. An experience like this will never happen at premier or flirt. Those guys are pros... Don't get me wrong. I think sometimes there could be friction between the client and the MP... It comes down to how the manager and how the owner are willing to fix it in order to respect your business, maintain it, and even increase it.

I think girls at seduction really need to understand that they are getting paid, very handsomely i might add, to provide a professional service. We are not at a bar to get drunk, get paranoid and offended, and have illogical arguments with the client with stinking breath...

Have a good night gentlemen.

I feel for you bro. But at the same time what do expect the place to do. They offered fair compensation. Are you expecting to get jerked off for free?

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[Hobbyist0912]

I think a fair compensation would be to reduce the payment to an amount equivalent to 10 minutes (the time I was in the room). Not 30 minutes.
Even if I was in the room for 30 minutes, since it was a bad experience, other spas may offer to pay the door fee. They may say "OK, we can't pay back the part that goes to the MP, but we can return the door fee. Again, this is if I was in the room for 30 minutes. But I was only there for 10 minutes.

 

[Hobbyist0912]

She just offered to change my 45 minutes session to a 30 minutes session (covering the full cost including door fee), while I was in the room for 10 minutes. As I said the right compensation would be reducing the payment to 10 minutes equivlanet. A better one would be reducing to 30 minutes minus the door fee. But they just offered to reduce my 45 minutes to 30 minutes. I'll let others be the judge.

 

[Hobbyist0912]

I should also add Thunder... I am just sharing my experience so like-minded individuals won't have something similar happen to them .If you're OK with a business that treats their regulars like this, I think you should keep visiting them. I think we have different standards.
These incidents dont happen often, but they could happen. It is only in these situations that business owners get a chance to really demonstrate how much they actually value your business. I simply prefer to bring my business to other establishments where its respected more.

 

[Easylife]

Well stay away from these white trash scam spas with undeserving whores. These trailer trash have some attitude problems

 

[thunderfromdownunder]

I should also add Thunder... I am just sharing my experience so like-minded individuals won't have something similar happen to them .If you're OK with a business that treats their regulars like this, I think you should keep visiting them. I think we have different standards. These incidents dont happen often, but they could happen. It is only in these situations that business owners get a chance to really demonstrate how much they actually value your business. I simply prefer to bring my business to other establishments where its respected more.

Yea I get pissed when a session sucks but what am I missing here. By offering a $40 credit on a 30 minute session it's not totally unreasonable. But I find all girls getting more money hungry these days

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[Hobbyist0912]

Yea I get pissed when a session sucks but what am I missing here. By offering a $40 credit on a 30 minute session it's not totally unreasonable. But I find all girls getting more money hungry these days

I think they must fix the problem that has already happened, not to give you credit for a future visit and have the audasity to ask you to bring even more business...

Let me explain again. I had paid 180 (for 45 minutes). The girl finished in ten minutes. Then the manager suggested to pay me back 40, making what I have paid them 140 for a ten minute session. I am saying that they should have adjusted the payment for ten minutes. If that's too much they should have atleast reduced it to 30 minutes, without the door fee.

Even in a complete 30 minutes session where you are not fully satisfied, places like perla and pure would offer the door fee to you and give credit for next visit. Again, I am just sharing my experience. I'll leave it to the gents who read these to judge based on what I have written and their own experiences.

 

[Hobbyist0912]

Well stay away from these white trash scam spas with undeserving whores. These trailer trash have some attitude problems

Yes, that was my poor judgment... No more visits to seduciton for me. Will be sticking to Perla, Pure (when it opens), and Flirt...

 

[sqwas]

I had a similar experience at Seduction spa Keele location in the past. Ended up paying her (I was naive at the time) and got bad service. Never bothered to return after that. Many other spas around that location and never had an experience as bad as the one at Seduction.

 

[Freeuse.ca]

If you are young in shape great hygiene and good looking you could have easily got extras for free if not highly discounted your just a simp the spa was fair my dude what more were they to do like cmon man are you Indian or something ? You sound cheap as fuck seduction is a whore house young girls on drugs idk what you expected LOL look at the place

 

[LazyBoy]

Ah, so you did make your own thread. Anyway, I put my 2 cents in that other thread and am too lazy to repeat here. Stuff like this happens at other spas too. Premier and Flirt as well. Personally, I think you handled it all wrong and let your emotions, immaturity and over entitled sense of self righteousness make a bad situation worse... but that's just my opinion. Take it with a double handful of salt.

 

[henricas]

I stop fucking white trash hungry whores long time ago.

They are money hungry, offer next to nothing for the money and think they are entitle to everything.

Multiple bad experiences keep me away from them. The moment she up the price you should have walked


On the other hand the manager offer you $80 back it would have make the damage only $100 even if you don't use the credit.

Oh well better luck next time.

 

[Melting_Point23]

I've gone earlier in the day both times and never experienced alchol breath. Are girls generally "behave" during daytime?

 

[UsefulIdiot]

Gents,

I just made a second account, as I do not wish the disclose my identity with my main account. I’ve been enjoying this hobby for more than 3 years now, have many reviews here, and I just had my worst experience at seduction spa (Keele) location and with their new girl Victoria.

So I had originally asked for Victoria for 45 minutes. I went in and asked the manager if there are any duo possibilities... she says let me go ask the girls if anyone is comfortable. She comes back in a few minutes and says Britney could join you but you have to pay this much more + this much more tip for both girls. I considered for a bit and said ok I think I’m just gonna stick with Victoria tonight.

I go into the room and Victoria comes in with her breath stinking of alcohol (turn off), but I didn’t say anything and acted like I was very happy with what I’m seeing. Then she says so have you been to the spa before? I say yes, many times. She says well you know what you want? (very business like). I say yes, I want full service. She’s like ok let me think... we have 45 minutes... so that’s gonna be 180(!)... I was naturally surprised and said I normally pay 100 for FS, even in one hour long sessions. She gives me this look like I have murdered her family and she goes WELL THATS NOT GONNA WORK FOR ME! all the while, her stinking breath is not helping. So I go ok well then let’s just do a normal teasing session. She’s like fine! Lay on your back! I said (in a playful way) can just have fun without the massage? She says well you said you want a normal session! I cannot stress how confrontational her tone was in all of these exchanges. So she’s like OK FINE! Grabs my guy and starts jack hammer. I’m like hold on go easy. Could you tease me. She’s like well you said you wanna have fun the whole time! I’m like hold on, why are you being so difficult? Did I offend you? She’s like “well first you come in and you say you want to do a duo with my friend. AND YOU WERENT EVEN SERIOUS! Then you’re trying to get my services for cheap. Of course I’m mad” I’m like well I’m just asking about my options...What's wrong with that? then she grabs my guy again and jack hammer and finished me in 5 minutes. Then says I’ll be back.... I knew she’s not coming back. I put on my clothes and walk out and go to the manager (her name was Lisa). I politely said can I please speak with you and she’s like yes give me a second. She helps another customer and then comes back and says ok what happened?! Turns out Victoria had already spoken with her and intended to leave me in the room on my own(!). At first she was also giving me this look like I had murdered Victoria’s family! So I patiently explained and told her I apologize but I have to be detailed with my description. I told her everything (more detailed than above) and her facial expression changed.

Keep in mind that I was in the room for only 10 minutes. She said ok I’m very sorry for your experience. what I can do is to “make your session a 30 minutes session” and refund you 40 bucks and give you a credit of 40 bucks for next time. I said “I was in the room for only ten minutes. I am not going to visit your establishments ever again if you do not fix this. I have spent so much money in this place”. She said ok let me call the owner. I only have so much power as a manager. She leaves and keeps me wait for another 5-7 minutes. Comes back and repeats what she had said previously(!) with two twenties in her hand and puts them in my hand and repeats “Ok, so we can give you 40 back to make your session a half an hour session and give you 40 dollar credit for your next visit” I got up and threw the 40 bucks on the table and said keep your forty bucks, I am not going to visit your spa again. She looked very surprised (!). I told her 40 bucks is not gonna make me rich and is not gonna make your establishment flourish. It’s about the principle... and walked out. Worst spa experience in all my hobbying experiences over the years. I should also add that I am young fella and in very good shape and my hygene is great.

Have had a few not so great experiences at airport location as well and have seen bad reviews of Seduction spa on this board as well. But I think this experience was the last straw for me. I won’t be visiting seduction ever again and I suggest the same to fellow hobbyists. An experience like this will never happen at premier or flirt. Those guys are pros... Don't get me wrong. I think sometimes there could be friction between the client and the MP... It comes down to how the manager and how the owner are willing to fix it in order to respect your business, maintain it, and even increase it.

I think girls at seduction really need to understand that they are getting paid, very handsomely i might add, to provide a professional service. We are not at a bar or a party to get drunk, get paranoid and offended, and have illogical arguments with the client with stinking breath...

Have a good night gentlemen.

Thank you for sharing. I will avoid this place.

 

[Hobbyist0912]

Th

I stop fucking white trash hungry whores long time ago.

They are money hungry, offer next to nothing for the money and think they are entitle to everything.

Multiple bad experiences keep me away from them. The moment she up the price you should have walked


On the other hand the manager offer you $80 back it would have make the damage only $100 even if you don't use the credit.

Oh well better luck next time.

the manager offered only 40 back, making the damage 140...

 

[luvnewpussy]

Your trying to barter with a drunk young girl who has what you want. Did you expect to come out on top..?? Ahaha

Seduction is not pure or Perla or flirt
It's a frat house with young whores who use drugs or booze to get thru seeing guys that look like there dads. Yes there hot girls..yes there young ..so partying comes along with it.

She said 180..you should have walked.
So you expected they where going to calculate the amount you paid minus the time you spent x the amount of cum that came out your cock + the amount of times the moon rotated around the earth ÷ emc squared ... come on bro .

Chalk it up under a shitty session at seduction and move on. Thanks for sharing . Have not seen a really good review of Victoria. Just Count your losses . I had a few there as well but more good than bad.

New Young pussy has a way of bringing you back .

 

[asiabuffet]

Seduction has turned into a no go spa for me. It’s not my style. All the girls there are classless white trash. All tattooed up With alcohol, smoking and drug problems. But what I really don’t like is the lack of sensuality in the sessions. It’s all about business and full service there. I know a lot of people like that stuff, but I go there to relax and have a good time. Not just bang whores. The girls need to take a lesson from Perla in sensuality. But I guess it’s easier to just suck and fuck then make an effort to do a good body slide.

 

[myonly]

Ah, so you did make your own thread. Anyway, I put my 2 cents in that other thread and am too lazy to repeat here. Stuff like this happens at other spas too. Premier and Flirt as well. Personally, I think you handled it all wrong and let your emotions, immaturity and over entitled sense of self righteousness make a bad situation worse... but that's just my opinion. Take it with a double handful of salt.

I Agree with you LAZYBOY sounds like this guy is just angry at hot chicks for not dropping on there knees as soon as he enters a room!

 

[stationary_traveller]

Gents,

I just made a second account, as I do not wish the disclose my identity with my main account. I’ve been enjoying this hobby for more than 3 years now, have many reviews here, and I just had my worst experience at seduction spa (Keele) location and with their new girl Victoria.

So I had originally asked for Victoria for 45 minutes. I went in and asked the manager if there are any duo possibilities... she says let me go ask the girls if anyone is comfortable. She comes back in a few minutes and says Britney could join you but you have to pay this much more + this much more tip for both girls. I considered for a bit and said ok I think I’m just gonna stick with Victoria tonight.

I go into the room and Victoria comes in with her breath stinking of alcohol (turn off), but I didn’t say anything and acted like I was very happy with what I’m seeing. Then she says so have you been to the spa before? I say yes, many times. She says well you know what you want? (very business like). I say yes, I want full service. She’s like ok let me think... we have 45 minutes... so that’s gonna be 180(!)... I was naturally surprised and said I normally pay 100 for FS, even in one hour long sessions. She gives me this look like I have murdered her family and she goes WELL THATS NOT GONNA WORK FOR ME! all the while, her stinking breath is not helping. So I go ok well then let’s just do a normal teasing session. She’s like fine! Lay on your back! I said (in a playful way) can just have fun without the massage? She says well you said you want a normal session! I cannot stress how confrontational her tone was in all of these exchanges. So she’s like OK FINE! Grabs my guy and starts jack hammer. I’m like hold on go easy. Could you tease me. She’s like well you said you wanna have fun the whole time! I’m like hold on, why are you being so difficult? Did I offend you? She’s like “well first you come in and you say you want to do a duo with my friend. AND YOU WERENT EVEN SERIOUS! Then you’re trying to get my services for cheap. Of course I’m mad” I’m like well I’m just asking about my options...What's wrong with that? then she grabs my guy again and jack hammer and finished me in 5 minutes. Then says I’ll be back.... I knew she’s not coming back. I put on my clothes and walk out and go to the manager (her name was Lisa). I politely said can I please speak with you and she’s like yes give me a second. She helps another customer and then comes back and says ok what happened?! Turns out Victoria had already spoken with her and intended to leave me in the room on my own(!). At first she was also giving me this look like I had murdered Victoria’s family! So I patiently explained and told her I apologize but I have to be detailed with my description. I told her everything (more detailed than above) and her facial expression changed.

Keep in mind that I was in the room for only 10 minutes. She said ok I’m very sorry for your experience. what I can do is to “make your session a 30 minutes session” and refund you 40 bucks and give you a credit of 40 bucks for next time. I said “I was in the room for only ten minutes. I am not going to visit your establishments ever again if you do not fix this. I have spent so much money in this place”. She said ok let me call the owner. I only have so much power as a manager. She leaves and keeps me wait for another 5-7 minutes. Comes back and repeats what she had said previously(!) with two twenties in her hand and puts them in my hand and repeats “Ok, so we can give you 40 back to make your session a half an hour session and give you 40 dollar credit for your next visit” I got up and threw the 40 bucks on the table and said keep your forty bucks, I am not going to visit your spa again. She looked very surprised (!). I told her 40 bucks is not gonna make me rich and is not gonna make your establishment flourish. It’s about the principle... and walked out. Worst spa experience in all my hobbying experiences over the years. I should also add that I am young fella and in very good shape and my hygene is great.

Have had a few not so great experiences at airport location as well and have seen bad reviews of Seduction spa on this board as well. But I think this experience was the last straw for me. I won’t be visiting seduction ever again and I suggest the same to fellow hobbyists. An experience like this will never happen at premier or flirt. Those guys are pros... Don't get me wrong. I think sometimes there could be friction between the client and the MP... It comes down to how the manager and how the owner are willing to fix it in order to respect your business, maintain it, and even increase it.

I think girls at seduction really need to understand that they are getting paid, very handsomely i might add, to provide a professional service. We are not at a bar or a party to get drunk, get paranoid and offended, and have illogical arguments with the client with stinking breath...

Have a good night gentlemen.

Thanks for letting us know man! For me personally, the quality of sessions at premier is just another level.