What Happened to This Industry?

[hangul99]

The spas morphed into something they really shouldn't have. Holistic places became brothels and quite openly in fact.

Things should swing back to SP's for FS and spas for massage and basic fun.

 

[cali99]

Trust is in like the sense… she’s the only one she takes to the spa when no one else is there kind of trust.
or, she invites you over to her house type of trust!

 

[xtc27]

Trust is in like the sense… she’s the only one she takes to the spa when no one else is there kind of trust.
or, she invites you over to her house type of trust!

… yer doing hobbyist 3.0 … but lotsa guys barely 1.0!!! Hard 2 explain 2 them … once yer connecting, gal likes u, opens up 2 special menu… now yer 2.0… then u actually xxxchange friendship & helping out 4 freebies & home visits … that’s 3.0

 

[cali99]

hopefull. As lots of nice gals out there

 

[Deleted member 79939]

From what I have heard from others and have experienced so far.

MPAs are haggling for more money to do services they usually do and/or suddenly being restrictive unless they get the extra money they ask for.

for me personally if the MPA is going to up her game and give me more than the usual great I will pay more but I am not paying more for the same thing I always have with that MPA.

The only bear spa is WJT !!!
I heard lots of hot ladies there.
More mainland

 

[Deleted member 79939]

I wonder if the pandemic had an effect on this industry, or if it was going to happen anyways, but the massage industry has completely changed. I would almost always have a good time, some were really amazing times and better then others, but I rarely had a bad time. Now I’m struggling to even have a decent time.

Most of the good girls are gone or slowly leaving, while the ones still around that had good reputations just don’t offer good service anymore.

Regarding Premeir, Carla left, then Michelle offered amazing service and left recently, while Tracy just left. Tila is the only one left that I would want to see, maybe Sofia which I haven’t tried but heard good things. I haven’t really heard anything good about anyone else.

At Steeles I visited Savana recently, and even tho she tried, the service wasn’t that great, it use to be better. I won’t be repeating. Same with Robin, she was amazing and previously impossible to book, now she’s available almost any time you call. Her service is not at all good anymore. Still very friendly, but I won’t be visiting her again.

Allure still has amazing looking girls, and is probably the only place I may consider going to. I just wish management would let the girls even kiss. I’m not even asking for full service, but kissing makes it so much more sensual and better. Lia, Alyssa and Lily all offer good sensual services, but its just body kisses and stops with kisses/lfk. If they kissed I would be there a lot more.

I believe it’s gotta be management that doesn’t allow the kissing, cause I don’t think there’s anyway not even one review of kissing with any girls at Allure.

If anyone has any good recommendations of any girls at any place, let me know. Cause I use to enjoy this hobby but I’m now losing hope.

Porn destroyed the business .
Men want to try sex porn acts on the massage ladies .
That is why they are bitchy

 

[MrBnH]

High roller spenders are draining this industry and driving up prices so that everyone thinks they are worth $150 or more, stop paying so damn much (unless you go to another level/tier of provider of course, but those are more SP's than MPA's.
Getting the prices back in line is in the control of the buyers, but too many paying too much these days.
Then you get the increase in BBFS going on for upsell and it seems that even the MPA's that you could get a decent BS and HJ or BJ for a decent price all want more now...........and everyone thinks a BBBJ/CIM is now on par or higher than FS.........stop the insanity !
The service and tease seem to have disappeared and now it is more about the cash and upsell.

 

[sexmonger]

Couldn't agree more. The "recommendations" these gwai lo give to others is sad to say the least. Hearing it through the grapevine of others taking their advice, and shocked to see their standards when visiting them in person. Apparently 60 year olds equals 20s to them.

As to OP, this industry has taken a blow it won't ever recover from. It's not just MPs but SPs as well. All the worthwhile talent has moved to OnlyFans and sugaring so whatever is left is mediocre trash. Sure, one mans trash is another treasure. Let's see how long that line lasts when a generation passes and no attractive girls enter this industry in any way. If you want sad handjobs from grandmas be my guest but for those of us that want young talent you'll have to adapt to the new format of getting girls.

I hate to say it but the rise of OF killed the industry for young women. It was already slowly dying pre-pandemic but it really hit the fan during the pandemic.

 

[Magicmon]

OF didn’t kill the industry it basically is the industry. OF reshaped porn. Now if anyone wants to see new content the top option is OF. The bad thing about OF is you don’t know what you’re getting until you pay for access. Unless the person is good at advertising their OF account people blindly subscribe to an account only to find out the girl is only posting selfies.

Now you have reality TV stars making OF accounts and showing their buttholes.

 

[karlcox]

Except for one really shitty experience at seduction and one bad experience at an Asian spa, I’m still having a great time. In fact, I would say since the start of Covid I’ve bad some of my best experiences yet.

 

[malodrax]

Whores realized most of us are addicts and WILL pay whatever they ask to get our fix.

Plus some of us are simps on top of that, so we'll pay even more.

And the supply still hasn't met demand. Look at the number of views on LL ads, thousands of views in half a day.

 

[hookerpuncher]

OF didn’t kill the industry it basically is the industry. OF reshaped porn. Now if anyone wants to see new content the top option is OF. The bad thing about OF is you don’t know what you’re getting until you pay for access. Unless the person is good at advertising their OF account people blindly subscribe to an account only to find out the girl is only posting selfies.

Now you have reality TV stars making OF accounts and showing their buttholes.

Who wants to pay to see pictures of pussy instead of sticking your dick in them physically.

Comment above is correct that simps have ruined things.

 

[Magicmon]

Who wants to pay to see pictures of pussy instead of sticking your dick in them physically.

Comment above is correct that simps have ruined things.

Porn is a billion dollar business. Lot of people do.

 

[hookerpuncher]

Porn is a billion dollar business. Lot of people do.

and it can be found for free all over the place alongside OF stuff. I pay for services, not intangible goods that have no use.

 

[Magicmon]

and it can be found for free all over the place alongside OF stuff. I pay for services, not intangible goods that have no use.

What you wrote just now has no relation to what I said. You said who wants to see pictures. I am pointing out that a lot of people do because porn is a huge business and has always had a big market and following.

 

[hookerpuncher]

and I'm saying you're a dumbass simp for paying for virtual content when we can see girls in person

 

[Rocky Balboa]

Porn is a huge problem. Big addictions and Causing huge ED problems for so many young guys.

 

[Rocky Balboa]

Except for one really shitty experience at seduction and one bad experience at an Asian spa, I’m still having a great time. In fact, I would say since the start of Covid I’ve bad some of my best experiences yet.

Which places are you visiting? And who are you seeing? If you don’t mind sharing….

 

[Dotanuki]

High roller spenders are draining this industry and driving up prices so that everyone thinks they are worth $150 or more, stop paying so damn much (unless you go to another level/tier of provider of course, but those are more SP's than MPA's.
Getting the prices back in line is in the control of the buyers, but too many paying too much these days.
Then you get the increase in BBFS going on for upsell and it seems that even the MPA's that you could get a decent BS and HJ or BJ for a decent price all want more now...........and everyone thinks a BBBJ/CIM is now on par or higher than FS.........stop the insanity !
The service and tease seem to have disappeared and now it is more about the cash and upsell.

With respect BBBJ with or w/o in their estimation is more work than CFS. So is it a matter of highrollers driving up prices or a smarter, more informed sexworker?

From conversations I've had with them on and offline is that they expect compensation relative to risk to health or work they put in. That is not to say that there are a TON of them looking to get paid to do nothing but lay there. However the situation is not monolithic. Worse still sexwork is been done under the pretense of massage so real honest talk can't be had. SP's would rather have those convos so everyone knows what the expectations are. But MPAs muddy the situation. I have no personal opinion on that for or against. It is what it is

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[Magicmon]

Porn is a huge problem. Big addictions and Causing huge ED problems for so many young guys.

It’s fascinating that with the easy access to the huge amount of porn on the internet we are now see how that effects people. There is a study that said ED and porn addiction is going to be a common thing that most boys and men are going to suffer from in the future. I am trying to find the art or it’s a good read.