Financial advice: money saving tip

[Pompal 09.]

Not that I much care but after reading six pages of this I had to join the fun.

I can say that I've never known an MPA unless she was an owner to be just an MPA. There was always a real life out there and another job. I've known accountants, entrepreneurs, retail workers, personal attendants, social workers and students who've all taken a stab at the biz. That's why the girls use pseudonyms. They don't want to the worlds confused just like the clients don't want the worlds confused. You wouldn't bring an MPA to your office, would you?

Secondly, there seems to be the unspoken tension of the view of attendants and clients here. It is a customer service relationship not significantly different than your dentist or newspaper boy. I guess because of the pseudo-intimacy involved people want to be valued, but really the MPA is not selling a used car she's selling her talents. You can see why asking her to discount them would involve some measure of ego. And clients, if you're not above asking for a discount, why would you think she's above asking for full value for her service? Everybody's just thinking about money.

Finally, this whole thought of grab whatever cash you can and take the discount because it's good business is short sighted. What MPASquared is an independent contractor working at a location. All her fellow attendants are also competition. They don't pool their earnings at the end of the day. So what she's saying is that the girl who offers cut rates may get more business, but now she's drawing from the other girls. To compete they now have to lower their prices to the point they simply leave and then the spa is dead. The FS girl, as MPA2 suggested, at least provides a higher service for the money, but not the same level for less.

As for the comparison to the car dealership. It doesn't work because every car has a certain base price. Ignoring the markup there is a cost for a dealer to have a Bentley on hand. Then he asks for MSRP and you haggle in between. But if you go in and offer $60,000 for a Bentley and he takes it when it costs $200,000 to purchase he's creating a steep loss and he won't be able to purchase another Bentley. He can't replace what he's given away so he makes no profit at all. If he did that with every car he goes out of business.

As for the MPA, well, everything on the tip is profit because there is no good exchanged just a service. So what determines the profit is whatever makes it worth her while to come in to work. Many MPAs have days where they don't see clients. They don't all earn six figures.

And for those suggesting take the discount to get any kind of money if she offered FS for $20 one week just to get customers coming do you really think they would come back the next when she says $20 gets you topless now?

This is a completely value based luxury service profession. If you undervalue yourself you condition your consumer base to do the same. It's like Levi's and Prada jeans. One charges $65 one charges $300. You've been conditioned to think well $300 for Prada is a good deal. You'd never say Levi's for $300 is a good one.

 

[Christopher]

WOW!! Talk about hitting the nail on the head! Finally someone understand what Im talking about! You are more than allowed to grace my table!!!!

 

[i like grapes.]

... and as an active member of Toronto Environmental Alliance, I will ensure you receive them all to wipe out your tears. You'll save more money, Sargeant StiffBrain!

 

[funkififer]

I kind of agree with your statement above, however, imagine if all the ladies would want to follow this, assuming everyone is a gent like yourself. Obviously, the owner of any SPA would and should become concerned to take any action necessary.

To owner's eyes, she doesn't make a friend...she's stealing a customer from their business.

If you owned your own SPA, you would not hesitate for a second to get rid of this lady .... no matter how much $$ she makes for your business.


Just my thought ...

 

[carbefangirl]

Ok SCC, I went threw some of your posting history, You commented on a review and by the tone it sounded like you had seen me. My fault if I was wrong. Im sorry.

I wonder why you are all attacking me for having an opinion. And obviously one totally different from yours, based on experience. As always, I just add my view from the MPA side of things. Im not bitter about those more flexable...whats there to be bitter about there? If I wanted to be flexable, I'd be Indy. Geeze guys, Im just trying to say that pricing isnt everything. That alot more goes into this business than money. Jump as far down my throat as you want, you have yet to convince me that undercharging is "good" for business.

 

[Sandralynn]

Where you are in life is where you deserve to be. Indeed applies to you!

NO. This is NOT Goodtime. It's one of a kind Disturbia. The one, original, and ONLY! In real life, a few folks call me trouble maker!

Now, leave Goodtime alone!

 

[artofwar1234]

I agree and to punish him so that he learns how to behave, the MPA should use a sand paper!

 

[Erick]

At 20 per cent off you got yourself a deal. LOL!

 

[Janice]

We are arguing about the fact that this post was started as advice to other hobbists. We arent arguing about price comparisons either. Im just saying that its tacky, not a good way to get good service, and that discounting can really ruin business. SCC and his supporters dont understand the MPA side of it because they arent MPA's. Its ok though, I dont hold it against him. Caused quite a stir though, LOL

oh and #1 DONT PAY MORE, #2 DONT PAY LESS ~ "A" or "B" level, or "C" or "D" or "Z"

I ask the questions I do specifically because you all have more 'variety' to base your feelings/thoughts/experiences on. All I know about is where I worked, where friends work, and what you boys tell me in feedback.

 

[Shark bait]

But you forgot, they are not MPA2. She is one of a kind. she is going to revolutionize the business world.

 

[~ Poca ~]

Good post.
That price point and/or profit point can can ocassionally becoming a moving target and it may get determined by factors beyond one's control (completition, demand). If an MPA is not going to resort to that, she better have a client base that is comfortable paying her states rates and/or offer superior service (within MPA limits). Granted, there are a lot of MPA that do offer superior service at stated prices and have a loyal client base. Thoses MPA's may not have to resort, but if you aren't in that category it might be a case of adapt or retreat.

 

[webkinzlover525]

Excellent post. Bravo... Bravo!



YES, I did this and I wouldn't mind doing it again! I had to. Last Xmas, there was this business dinner party which everyone was supposed to join as a couple. I didn't know anyone .... I knew couple of ladies but I figured they might assume that I was prepared to start a new relationship or something! It took me a few days but I finally made up my mind.

I asked one of my so favorite MPA lady to join me! Nothing more nothing less... I paid the amount of BS for 5 hours and that's about it. We both enjoyed the dinner, dance and nice conversations with those people! Not to mention so many managers and co-workers were wondering who this hot sexy, so SMART and knowledgeable young lady is...with this monkey guy called Disturbia! Nobody ever figured that out....my own secret forever! I always thank her for doing that big favor to me.

She's no longer in this business.

 

[sunshine]

I hit a nerve, did I? The thing I don't understand is that if you're so happy with your job why is what I said bothering you so much.

Actually if you (all MPAs) read my past posts, I am very pro Dancer / MPA. I have had 2 wonderful relationships with dancers in my past. I know what kind of stress those girls used to come home with. I married an ex dancer and have a wondeful family.

But what I said was the truth. At this time in your life, giving hand-jobs is the best you can do career wise, that is why you do it. Is that not true? This is a job that one gets into purely out of a need for the money / or because they are desperate. You gonna argue with that?

What? you have a law degree but you choose to yank guys off all day? Or do you own multiple businesses but you enjoy putting up with assholes trying to get into your pants all day. If you're so worried about what people think of your job, why don't you go pour coffee for 9 bucks an hour? Please ladies wake-up and face the truth.

And, FYI, when I used to go, I was a model client. I haven't been to a MP for ages. Something really special has to catch my eye for me to go.

Fuck this thread, I didn't get any work done today.

 

[Blarp]

Disturbia, Im jealous. That sounds fun!!

 

[ItseyBitsey]

I just thought of something. What do you think a high end escort that charges $500.00 thinks of you charging $100.00 for a BS.

Cheap whore? To her, you are on clearance sale.

 

[Beach Blondie]

I agree with MPAsquared. Under charging or just temporarily reducing prices to accommodate people’s current financial constraints is a mistake. If we all reduce our prices for a period of time to lighten the load on people’s pocket books, who’s to decide when the recession is over? One day we are all of a sudden suppose to say prices are increasing back to regular rates? I can’t see this going over to well with a client that has been provided a service at X amount of dollars for 6 or more months and then raising it on him.

I truly do understand the stresses on the economy are affecting the greater majority of people but remember boys, it affects us too…
Yes, there are layoffs and people losing their jobs but….
The question is…What would you do if your boss told you to continue doing your job for less money???

I think the only reasonable solution is. If you can’t afford to hobby….Don’t or go less often!

One last comment…Please keep in mind the job of the MPA is not comparable to most others. We are talking about bargaining prices of our minds, bodies and souls…

 

[packard1963]

Sir, what took you so long to figure this out???? Of course, it's true but I wouldn't describe it so harsh.

I got pissed off because the way that person posted his experience. And got more pissed off, when he said he was just joking.

Yes, even if he was not joking, how many times one could get a HJ without oil or baby powder?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I much prefer to give full cost only not to hurt Disturbia junior!

But, show me one example the competition is NOT good for consumer! Hell, even 2 highly educated IT in the same room can't stay friends for long! At one point or another, both will call each other Ass Kisser!

However, this is different. Any MPA, if not smart enough to save her hard working $$ to start her business or finish school and etc, won't last long. So, they have a limited amount of time to reach their goals. For that to happen, they have to charge as much as they can. Or... see more clients ---> by charging less and etc. etc. etc. They won't stay young and beautiful as they are today. They won't be as patient to see some ugly smelly short fat Disturbia .... as they are today!

It's Sat. morning and I don't wanna waste my time to give speech but you get my point. As well, this is good for MP owner, I'm sure. He or she doesn't care how much MPA charges. All they want is to see more Disturbia (s) to book their rooms. Right? Of course!

 

[shuay]

I love your points here! I think hold-it-against-you is a bit strong, but in actuallity, you're quite right. Candidly, THOSE are the kinds of things girls talk about. We generally would tell our co-workers about someone whos gonna either ask for a 'deal', attempt to barter AFTER services rendered, or start with the whole 'well so-and-so does it for $XX' crap...being labeld as a cheapo isnt gonna get you far.

I think as a customer, something like massageplanet.net for example, is a big help. You can get a feel for prices at different places, learn accepted practices, etc. Go somewhere within your price range. Go as often as you can afford and can enjoy. $ can be a big stressor, getting that pressure out of the way before you even walk in can help better your time spent within MP walls. Cash-advancing from AmEx isnt exactly the point of the hobby, so $20 deals shouldnt be on your mind. Enjoyment and value should!!

We want you to have a great session with us...we want to have a great session with you...money and mileage are the worst things to banter about mid-session...talk about a buzzkill !! Boom Boom Boom, get the session choice, price, and time out of the way and get on with having fun!!

 

[theresa m]

Well I never said that from your side of the table you would understand my theory. It would seem obvious that if prices were lower, everyone is happy. You are allso assuming that the MPA who decided on the discount was in a 'better to make some money than no money' situation. You dont know how busy she was. I have seen what happens to solid business when a girl starts offering lower prices. It spreads faster than a FS girl! suddenly the other girls are being haggled, bartered with, etc..."oh but so-and-so does it for this amount". And just because there is a demand for cheaper sessions doesnt mean that there is any less demand for higher priced service. If that were true the world would only eat at McDonalds. I decide what Im worth thankyou. I dont settle for less. I dont hussle for more. Yes there are factors that weigh into what I decide that value is (like demand, competition, season, facilities, etc)

SSC...I dont tell that info.

And Disturbia, you, as usual, are right!!

 

[lovincupcakez]

I'm a sick puppy, will you see me?

Oh yes - and FALSE to the brick wall.